(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.)

Some days are still scary.

We didn’t just “walk away” from the machine without fear. We were terrified. And some days we still are. But at some point, you have to go for it anyway.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Leaving corporate security

• Riding the waves of grief and different seasons

• The tension between providing for your family and actually being present

• How ego can disguise itself as “I’m doing this for my family”

• Different forms of compensation that aren’t money

• And why time — not income — might be the real currency

We share how life looks completely different than it did four years ago. The missed games. The early mornings. The stress that quietly crept into relationships. And what it means now to be intentional — especially when health, family, and time feel fragile.

We also talk about:

• The pressure corporations create

• The fear of “launching” kids

• Why time feels like it speeds up

• And a story about someone in his 20s who recognized burnout before it wrecked his life

At some point you have to ask:

How much is enough?

And what are you really doing it for?

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