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Tina Brown on Epstein, Vanity Fair, Olivia Nuzzi, and the Future of Media


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Tina Brown — legendary editor of Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, Talk, and The Daily Beast — joins Lachlan Cartwright for one of the sharpest, funniest, and most revealing conversations ever on The Breaker Pod.


Brown reflects on four decades of shaping culture, breaking talent, reinventing media brands, and surviving the chaos of both legacy institutions and modern digital empires. She talks about the myth of celebrity power, the collapse of magazines, the rise of Substack, the limits of tech moguls, Anna Wintour’s misunderstood persona, Harvey Weinstein, Tucker Carlson, Meghan Markle, and why the Epstein story simply will not die.


This is a masterclass in storytelling, leadership, cultural intuition, and the business of media — delivered by someone who defined it.


⏱ Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to The Breaker Pod from Il Tolo East

00:22 – Introducing Tina Brown and her cultural impact

01:10 – Tina Brown on being “feral” and instinct-driven

01:18 – Editing Vanity Fair and the stars she never landed

02:00 – Melania Trump covers and the infamous Talk magazine shoots

03:00 – Olivia Nuzzi, Ryan Lizza, and media reputations

04:30 – The most misunderstood power players in media

05:24 – Anna Wintour and the reality behind the persona

06:26 – Who will succeed Anna Wintour and what Condé Nast needs

06:58 – Media projects Tina Brown never understood

07:21 – Which institutions still command fear

08:07 – Emma Tucker vs. Will Lewis: reviving the Wall Street Journal

08:53 – What made magazines magical — and what broke them

10:26 – The art of editing and the seduction of magazines

12:00 – Highbrow/lowbrow mix and the pleasure principle

13:36 – Tina’s biggest career flameout: the Talk magazine era with Harvey Weinstein

14:22 – What Harvey was really like as a media partner

16:03 – Assignments, gossip columnists, and chaos at Talk

16:45 – Advice for legacy media and why great content still wins

17:43 – Tech moguls as media owners and why it never works

20:00 – The LA Times, arrogance, and the collapse of newsrooms

21:49 – Celebrity culture, influencers, and the myth of overnight fame

23:32 – Meghan, Harry, and the realities of royal machinery

25:45 – The biggest underreported tension inside the monarchy

26:53 – Epstein, the Epstein class, and why the story is “sticky”

29:27 – Michael Wolff, The Daily Beast, and selective media outrage

30:33 – Reinvention as the key to a long career

31:07 – Live journalism and the rise of investigative summits

32:55 – The chilling effect and legal threats shaping journalism

33:50 – Identifying talent: what Tina looks for in a writer

35:25 – Investigative reporters and the curmudgeon gene

36:27 – Tucker Carlson, humiliation, and what changed him

37:45 – Is Substack the future of Tina Brown?

39:00 – The joy of stats, engagement, and independence

40:00 – Who should succeed David Remnick at The New Yorker

41:01 – Gossip, media games, and global reach

42:00 – What Tina would blow up first if handed a legacy title in 2026

43:26 – Young talent and the future of investigative journalism

45:00 – Closing and farewell


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