In this classic episode from the archive, Cally talks to comedian and presenter Zoe Lyons about alopecia, running, mindfulness, menopause, childhood, going grey, anxiety, TV formats, paddle boarding, diving, survival and wild-pooing.

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Produced by Mike Hanson and Kourosh Adhamy for Pod People Productions

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Music by Jake Yapp

Cover Art by Jaijo Design

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