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  • PayPal’s Plan to Win the Agent Economy

    On Ep. 7 of Agentic Commerce, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Kausik Rajgopal, EVP, Strategy, Corporate Development & Partnerships @ PayPal to discuss trust and fraud management in agentic commerce, PayPal integrations with Microsoft Copilot and Perplexity and more!


    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 01:45 Trust and fraud management in agentic commerce
    • 05:51 AI-driven purchase journeys during Black Friday
    • 08:17 Merchants needing AI channel product discoverability
    • 11:28 Payment options for AI agents including stablecoins
    • 13:29 Consumer versus agent payment optimization differences
    • 15:19 PayPal integrations with Microsoft Copilot and Perplexity
    • 20:54 Travel and hospitality as key agentic commerce use case
    • 27:31 Stablecoin use for microtransactions and real-time settlement
    • 32:33 Interoperability challenges among multiple agent protocols
    • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa
      A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.


      Tokenized is also presented by Mesh
      As the first global crypto payments network, Mesh makes it possible for anyone — or any agent — to pay or get paid instantly, from any wallet, on any chain, anywhere in the world. Learn more at meshpay.com

      ***

      We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

       

      Music by Henry McLean

      40 min
    • Every Fintech is Launching a Stablecoin Product

      On Ep. 80 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Nick Philpott, Co-Founder and Head of Partnerships @ Zodia Markets and Paul Frambot, Co-Founder & CEO @ Morpho to discuss why non USD stablecoins are slow to launch, USDT adoption by US fintechs and more!

      Timestamps:

      • 00:00 Introduction
      • 1:40 Regional currency stablecoins vs G10 focus
      • 4:27 Why non USD stablecoins are slow to launch
      • 7:44 Ramp adds USDT and stablecoin accounts for fintechs
      • 9:50 USDT adoption by US fintechs and regulatory risk
      • 14:57 USDT vs USDC usage differences in DeFi
      • 19:02 Gig economy stablecoin payouts and slower than expected scaling
      • 24:19 Stablecoin payouts as early mover advantage for brands
      • 30:43 AAVE exploit caused by risky restaking token collateral
      • 44:55 Japan tests government bonds on blockchain
      • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

        A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

        Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

        Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

        Tokenized is presented by M0

        Stablecoins are becoming global financial infrastructure. It's time for that infrastructure to mature. If you're a brand, you should have your own stablecoin set to the behavior of financial flows moving through your product. If you're an issuer, you want to be the stablecoin partner for the most valuable brands. M0 is the only platform where issuers and brands get together to build digital money products for the world. Learn more at m0.org


        ***

        We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

         

        Music by Henry McLean

        49 min
      • Why Your AI Agent Needs a Card and a Stablecoin Wallet

        On Ep. 6 of Agentic Commerce, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Nikhil Chandhok, Chief Product Officer & CTO @ Circle to discuss agentic commerce impact on everyday consumers, vibe coding, agent owned wallets and more!


        Timestamps:

        • 00:00 Introduction
        • 4:08 Pre channels era of agentic commerce development
        • 6:51 Agentic commerce impact on everyday consumers
        • 10:44 Vibe coding and cost of building software
        • 14:12 Emergence of new one person merchant endpoints
        • 21:04 Nano payments enabling small value transactions
        • 27:40 Multiple agentic commerce protocols and interoperability
        • 32:11 On chain consumer payments versus traditional cards
        • 36:29 Local currency stablecoins and on chain FX
        • 39:46 Agent owned wallets versus human wallets
        • 42:16 Using AI agents inside product development cycles
        • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa
          A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.


          Tokenized is also presented by Mesh

          As the first global crypto payments network, Mesh connects over 300 wallets, exchanges and payments platforms, and enables anyone to pay and get paid instantly, anywhere, in any asset. Mesh makes digital transactions seamless, secure and universal, fuelling the next era of agentic commerce. Learn more at meshpay.com

          ***

          We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

           

          Music by Henry McLean

          48 min
        • Should Banks Fear Stablecoin Yield?

          On Ep. 79 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo is joined by Alex Johnson, Author @ Fintech Takes and Nikil Viswanathan, CEO & Co-Founder @ Alchemy to discuss token economics and efficiency in AI systems, the consolidation of protocols in agentic commerce and more!

          Timestamps:

          • 00:00 Introduction
          • 5:03 Payments foundation models using transformer architecture
          • 10:44 Open source models for financial services adoption
          • 17:53 Cost and latency tradeoffs for AI inference
          • 20:24 Token economics and efficiency in AI systems
          • 23:21 Agentic workflows as intellectual property in commerce
          • 25:45 Consolidation of protocols in agentic commerce
          • 30:17 Open source runtime OpenSHIELD for agent security
          • 33:33 Stablecoin advantages for agent to agent microtransactions
          • 35:36 Real traction in search over payments for agents
          • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

            A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

            Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

            Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

            Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

            With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


            ***

            We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

             

            Music by Henry McLean

            50 min
          • How Payments Foundations Models are Fuelling Agentic Commerce Ft. Nvidia

            On Ep. 5 of Agentic Commerce, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Pahal Patangia, Head of Global Industry Business Development and Payments @ NVIDIA to discuss open source models for financial services adoption, agentic workflows as intellectual property in commerce and more!


            Timestamps:

            • 00:00 Introduction
            • 5:03 Payments foundation models using transformer architecture
            • 10:44 Open source models for financial services adoption
            • 17:53 Cost and latency tradeoffs for AI inference
            • 20:24 Token economics and efficiency in AI systems
            • 23:21 Agentic workflows as intellectual property in commerce
            • 25:45 Consolidation of protocols in agentic commerce
            • 30:17 Open source runtime OpenShell for agent security
            • 33:33 Stablecoin advantages for agent to agent microtransactions
            • 35:36 Real traction in search over payments for agents
            • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa
              A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.


              Tokenized is also presented by Mesh

              As the first global crypto payments network, Mesh connects over 300 wallets, exchanges and payments platforms, and enables anyone to pay and get paid instantly, anywhere, in any asset. Mesh makes digital transactions seamless, secure and universal, fuelling the next era of agentic commerce. Learn more at meshpay.com

              ***

              We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

               

              Music by Henry McLean

              42 min
            • Blockchain's Threat to Banking

              On Ep. 78 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Prabhakar Reddy, CEO & Founder @ OpenFX and Thomas Cowan, Head of Tokenization @ Galaxy to discuss inspiration for Open FX, the three distinct eras of stablecoin FX liquidity evolution and more!

              Timestamps:

              • 00:00 Introduction
              • 1:48 Inspiration for Open FX from Western Union remittance queues
              • 4:45 The three distinct eras of stablecoin FX liquidity evolution
              • 6:45 Banks are designed to hold deposits not move money
              • 10:47 FX settlement speed bottlenecks in developed G10 currencies
              • 18:35 Jamie Dimon's annual letter acknowledges blockchain and stablecoin threats
              • 24:32 International banking pressure to adopt stablecoin payment rails
              • 29:20 Tokenization growth and use cases decoupled from Bitcoin volatility
              • 32:09 Onchain shareholder voting for tokenized equity using Broadridge
              • 40:53 Tokenized equities will expand global access to US markets
              • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

                A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

                Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

                Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

                Tokenized is presented by M0

                Stablecoins are becoming global financial infrastructure. It's time for that infrastructure to mature. If you're a brand, you should have your own stablecoin set to the behavior of financial flows moving through your product. If you're an issuer, you want to be the stablecoin partner for the most valuable brands. M0 is the only platform where issuers and brands get together to build digital money products for the world. Learn more at m0.org


                ***

                We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

                 

                Music by Henry McLean

                46 min
              • How AI Bots Buy Internet Services

                On Ep. 10 of Stablecoin Stats, Andrew Van Aken, Data Scientist @ Artemis is joined by Lucas Shin, Data & Research @ Artemis to discuss defining agentic payments and web resource transactions, x402 vs Machine Payments Protocol and more!

                Timestamps:

                • 00:00 Introduction
                • 1:46 Defining agentic payments and web resource transactions
                • 4:35 Artemis agentic payments dashboard and transaction trends
                • 5:40 Meme coin influence on agentic payment activity
                • 8:41 Filtering wash trading in agentic payment data
                • 12:05 Real use cases: lead enrichment and CLI tools
                • 14:47 Differences between x402 and Machine Payments Protocol
                • 16:43 Session-based payments and batching low-value transactions
                • 18:57 Supply side growth and discovery for agentic commerce
                • 20:50 Tracking qualified sellers in the agentic ecosystem
                • This episode is brought to you by Visa

                  A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

                  This podcast is powered by Artemis


                  ***

                  We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

                   

                  Music by Henry McLean

                  24 min
                • Amy Oldenburg, Head of Digital Asset Strategy @ Morgan Stanley

                  In this bonus episode of Tokenized, Rob Hadick, General Partner @ Dragonfly is joined by Amy Oldenburg, Head of Digital Asset Strategy @ Morgan Stanley to discuss Morgan Stanley's digital asset strategy, ETF trading and wealth management integration, OCC charter for digital asset custody and more!

                  Timestamps:

                  • 00:00 Introduction
                  • 1:06 Morgan Stanley digital asset strategy defined
                  • 2:54 Emerging markets analogy for crypto adoption
                  • 5:26 Breaking front office vs back office bias
                  • 7:46 ETF trading and wealth management integration
                  • 13:24 Price pullbacks help product development
                  • 16:52 OCC charter for digital asset custody
                  • 19:51 Tokenized equities and dark pool plans
                  • 23:22 Prediction markets and institutional interest
                  • 25:42 Build vs partner for crypto infrastructure
                  • ***

                    This episode is brought to you by Visa

                    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

                    ***

                    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

                    Music by Henry McLean

                    30 min
                  • Stablecoins Will Stop Retail From Subsidizing Wall St Ft. BitGo CEO Mike Belshe

                    On Ep. 77 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Sam Broner, Founder @ The Better Money Company and Mike Belshe, CEO @ BitGo to discuss frictions in stablecoin payments for retail, the interest and yield debate on stablecoins, quantum computing threat to blockchain cryptography and more!

                    Timestamps:

                    • 00:00 Introduction
                    • 1:54 Stablecoin clearing house problem explained
                    • 3:10 Frictions in stablecoin payments for retail
                    • 6:55 Diversity of stablecoins and enterprise issuance
                    • 8:19 Clearing house solving many to many problem
                    • 10:04 Interest and yield debate on stablecoins
                    • 16:25 OpenFX raises $94 million for FX
                    • 21:01 Stablecoin cross border payments and FX
                    • 30:59 Midas raises $50 million for tokenized liquidity
                    • 48:00 Quantum computing threat to blockchain cryptography
                    • Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

                      A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

                      Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

                      Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

                      Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

                      With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


                      ***

                      We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

                       

                      Music by Henry McLean

                      56 min
                    • Bank of England: Stablecoins, Settlement and the Digital Pound Lab

                      In this bonus episode of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo is joined by Danny Russell, Head of Payments Innovation Technology @ Bank of England to discuss stablecoins, settlement, the Digital Pound Lab and more!

                      Timestamps:

                      • 00:00 Introduction
                      • 1:44 Four major Bank of England payments innovation programs
                      • 2:22 Digital Security Sandbox for live digital securities issuance
                      • 2:56 Synchronization Lab enabling atomic settlement across ledgers
                      • 3:55 DLT Innovation Challenge testing wholesale central bank money on external ledgers
                      • 5:28 Digital Pound Lab as platform for industry co-creation
                      • 8:27 Digital check use case using verifiable credentials
                      • 14:18 Settlement finality approaches in DLT innovation challenge
                      • 19:10 Systemic stablecoin regulation and consultation update
                      • 22:56 Liquidity savings mechanism saving 75 billion pounds daily
                      • ***

                        This episode is brought to you by Visa

                        A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

                        ***

                        We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

                        Music by Henry McLean

                        29 min

                      About Tokenized

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                      This show is for the builders, who see stablecoins and tokenized real-world assets as the next step in the finance industry. The tokenization of all assets.

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