The list of the top ten things to see in Paris, according to the city's Official Visitors Bureau, is fantastic…. but it's a bit obvious. The Louvre, the Opera Garnier etc etc. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sure, it's an iconic list of things to see. But for your second trip to Paris (or maybe your third), here are some real pearls that you should look for instead.

Today's guest: Amber Minogue, whose new theatre show Becoming Mamam is drawing crowds each week - and restarts in September 2018.

Here's the basic list of what we talk about, in case you want to find some of these treasures yourself.

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