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Trade Tensions Reignite: China and the U.S. Back in the Ring | Oct. 13, 2025


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In this week’s episode of Optimal Insights, Jim Glennon, Jeff McCarty, Alex Hebner, and Kevin Foley discuss the renewed trade tensions between China and the U.S., the ongoing government shutdown, and their combined impact on the mortgage and financial markets. They share their expert opinions and insight into how these factors are shaping the industry and the broader economic landscape.

Key Points Discussed:

  • Trade Tensions: Renewed trade negotiations and policy disputes between the U.S. and China, particularly around rare earth exports and tariffs, are causing significant market volatility. The team highlights the connection between AI, semiconductor stocks, and rare earth minerals, emphasizing how these factors drive equity market movements.
  • Mortgage-Backed Securities (MBS) 101: The hosts provide a primer on MBS, explaining their origins, unique features in the U.S. market, and their role in setting mortgage rates. They discuss the importance of market conformity, liquidity, and the impact of government policies on rates.
  • Rate Breakdown: The episode details how mortgage rates are built from the risk-free rate, risk premiums, guarantee fees, servicing costs, and origination fees, illustrating why rates vary and what influences them.

Notable Insights/Advice:

  • Watch for policy-driven changes at the GSEs and government bond markets, as these could significantly impact mortgage rates and affordability.
  • Stay informed about macroeconomic indicators like CPI and employment reports, which influence market sentiment and rates.

Tune in to gain valuable insights to help you stay ahead and maximize your results in the ever-evolving mortgage landscape.

Optimal Insights Team:

  • Jim Glennon, Vice President of Hedging and Trading Client Services
  • Jeff McCarty, Vice President of Hedging and Trading Product, Optimal Blue
  • Alex Hebner, Hedge Account Manager, Optimal Blue
  • Kevin Foley, Director of Product Management, Optimal Blue

Optimal Blue Production Team:

  • Executive Producer: Sara Holtz
  • Producers: Matt Gilhooly & Hailey Røise

Commentary included in the podcast shall not be construed as, nor is Optimal Blue providing, any legal, trading, hedging, or financial advice.

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