Chris and Andy talk about some trailers that dropped this week for Season 6 of ‘Better Call Saul’ (1:00), the new 'Star Wars' series ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ (15:55), and ‘Outer Range,’ which looks like a mix of ‘Yellowstone’ and ‘True Detective’ (29:13). Then, Chris is joined by ‘Winning Time’ showrunner Max Borenstein to talk about the pressures that came along with creating a show about the iconic 1980s Lakers (41:46).

Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald

Guest: Max Borenstein

Producer: Kaya McMullen

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