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There's a common belief that to be more successful we need more resources — that we should earn more money, acquire more resources, accomplish more, spend more time, and expand our network of people. But when we focus on chasing down additional resources rather than using those already at our disposal, we are rarely satisfied with our work, and may in fact be less successful in the long run. Instead, could it be possible to do more with less?

In this week’s episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Debbie and Dr. Scott Sonenshein, author of Stretch and coauthor with Marie Kondo of Joy at Work, discuss the ideas of "chasing" and "stretching." Scott shares some practical wisdom for how to stretch in work and life. The conversation adds a whole new meaning to TLC’s lyric “don’t go chasing waterfalls!”

Listen and Learn:

How Debbie and Jill are trying to stretch in their personal lives

How Scott Sonenshein, an expert in organizational psychology, applies principles from organizational psychology to other domains of life

About a potential silver lining of the pandemic and our "new normal" (and Scott’s practical advice for creating your own silver lining anytime!)

Debbie’s delicious example of constraint leading to resourcefulness in her own life

Scott’s breakdown of the two mindsets that can help or hinder our efforts to be flexible

Scott’s personal experience with the chase mindset in Silicon Valley and the lessons he learned in the dot com era

The benefits of the stretch mindset — and practical advice on how to get into that mindset today

The ultimate question for starting your growth journey

Why it’s okay to not be an expert and how dabbling in many areas can be useful 

Practical examples of how to move from a chasing mindset to a stretching mindset

The most important thing Scott learned from collaborating with Marie Kondo

What ‘activity clutter’ is, how it might be impacting you, and three questions you can use to prioritize 

Resources

Scott Sonenshein’s book, Stretch: Unlock the Power of Less and Achieve More than You Ever Imagined. 

Scott’s and Marie Kondo’s book, Joy at Work: Organizing Your Professional Life 

Sign up for POTC’s First Annual Wise Minds Summit: How to Adapt and Thrive in Today’s Challenging Times

Dr. Scott Sonenshein

 

Scott Sonenshein, Ph.D. is the Henry Gardiner Symonds Professor of Management at Rice University and New York Times best-selling author whose books have been translated into over 20 languages. His award winning research, teaching, and speaking has helped Fortune 500 executives, entrepreneurs, and professionals in industries such as technology, energy, healthcare, retail, education, banking, manufacturing, and nonprofits. He holds a PhD in organizational behavior from the University of Michigan, an MPhil from the University of Cambridge, and a BA from the University of Virginia. His research appears in the very top academic journals and has contributed to several topics in management and psychology, including change, creativity, personal growth, social issues, decision making, and influence. Scott sits on five distinguished editorial boards and is a former associate editor of his field’s top publication, the Academy of Management Journal. Scott also worked as a strategy consultant for companies such as Microsoft and AT&T and lived the rise and fall of the dotcom boom while working for a Silicon Valley startup. He serves on the External Advisory Board of McKinsey & Company’s implementation practice. Scott has written for the New York Times, Time Magazine, Fast Company and Harvard Business Review. He has been interviewed on national and local television, NPR stations throughout the country, and has been featured in most major newspapers. To find out more about Scott’s work, visit his website, https://www.scottsonenshein.com/. You can also view Scott’s academic biography or Rice University page. Check Scott out on Twitter at @ScottSonenshein or on Instagram at scott.sonenshein.

In today’s world, it’s easy to stay on-the-go. Sometimes, on-the-go behaviors are necessary and functional. But often we engage in these behaviors to avoid discomfort. In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Jill and Matt Boone, co-author of Stop Avoiding Stuff, discuss avoidant behavior and how to address it with skills from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Make a committed action and join us in this episode to learn more about what you might be avoiding and how to respond instead!

Listen and Learn:

Jill and Debbie’s personal encounters with “doom scrolling” and other behaviors that feel good in the moment but cost us in the long-run

Matt’s breakdown of what his book, Stop Avoiding Stuff, is about and how you can benefit from it

Why Matt decided to write about avoidance in a digestible (bathroom-book) format

About Matt’s professional understanding of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 

Other places where Matt can train you in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

How to effectively use your understanding of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy to practice the skills in Matt's book 

Why Matt’s accessible explanations of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy are particularly useful right now

The inside-scoop on what’s inside Matt's book  

Practical advice on how to identify and become more mindful of your own avoidant behaviors 

Exercises for practicing awareness and willingness right now! 

How Matt came to Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and what role it plays in his personal life

Resources:

Matt’s book, Stop Avoiding Stuff: 25 Microskills to Face Your Fears and Do It Anyway, and the editor of Mindfulness and Acceptance in Social Work 

Jill’s books, Be Mighty and The Big Book of ACT Metaphors 

Matt’s webinar on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 

Sign up for POTC’s First Annual Wise Minds Summit: How to Adapt and Thrive in Today’s Challenging Times

About Matt Boone:

Matt Boone is a social worker, psychotherapist, and public speaker who specializes in translating mental health concepts for the general public. He is the co-author, with Jennifer Gregg and Lisa Coyne, of Stop Avoiding Stuff: 25 Microskills to Face Your Fears and Do It Anyway, and the editor of Mindfulness and Acceptance in Social Work. He is the director of programming and outreach at the student mental health services of the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, where he’s an instructor in psychiatry.

 At Lyra Health, a mental health tech startup, he led the clinical development of Lyra’s mental health coaching program and gave talks on subjects like stress and stigma to audiences at Facebook, Uber, and Genentech. At Cornell University, he oversaw the development of Let's Talk, an outreach program to underserved students that has since been replicated at nearly 100 colleges and universities. 

 He is an Association of Contextual Behavioral Science peer-reviewed acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) trainer and a former consultant for the VA ACT for Depression training rollout. He regularly provides ACT trainings for professionals and the general public.

 He lives in Little Rock with his wife, cat, and guitars, and he loves talking about mental health with people who think psychotherapy and self-help are a bit cringy. Find out more about Matt on his website, matthewsboone.com. 

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Episode 180. Choosing to Live Your Values with Benji Schoendorff

Episode 121. Be Mighty: An Episode for Stressed Out, Worried Women with Dr. Jill Stoddard

Episode 116. Building a Meaningful, Values-based Life with Dr. Jenna LeJeune

Episode 102. A Liberated Mind with Dr. Steven Hayes     

Episode 72. Committed Action with Dr. DJ Moran

It’s only the second week of the New Year, and many of us have already failed at (or given up on) achieving our New Year’s Resolutions. We often rely on sheer willpower to achieve these types of goals. However, willpower simply isn’t enough. On this week’s episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Diana and Benjamin Schoendorff, co-author of The Essential Guide to the ACT Matrix and The ACT Practitioner's Guide to the Science of Compassion, discuss the Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) matrix. The matrix is a complex therapeutic tool used to help clients contact experiences which keep them from living in ways that serve their values. In this episode, Benjamin breaks down the ACT matrix in a way that is accessible for all. Grab a cup of coffee, and join us to learn, practice, and grow today!

Listen and Learn

Diana and Yael’s take on the ACT matrix, what it is, and how it’s helped them to live in ways that serve their values

Benji’s expert definition of psychological flexibility 

Some practical exercises you can use to become more psychologically flexible right now

Benji’s breakdown of each quadrant in the matrix and what they represent 

About Diana’s personal experience working through the matrix

How the ACT matrix can be helpful for couples, parents, organizations, achieving New Years Resolutions, and much more!

What the “Dead Man Rule” is and how it might be impacting your mental health

Why values are often more important than willpower when it comes to achieving your goals

What ‘loops’ and ‘hooks’ are and how we get stuck in them (and how to behave in service of your values instead!)

Benji’s personal explanation of how moving through the ACT matrix influenced his spiritual practice

Resources

Books Benji co-authored, The Essential Guide to the ACT Matrix : A Step-by-Step Approach to Using the Act Matrix Model in Clinical Practice and The ACT Practitioner's Guide to the Science of Compassion: Tools for Fostering Psychological Flexibility Paperback – Illustrated, December 1, 2014 

Connect with The Contextual Psychology Institute 

Read more on what the ACT matrix is (and see what it looks like) here: https://contextualscience.org/act_matrix 

Register for Diana’s free, weekly meditation course here: https://drdianahill.com/tuesday-teachings/ 

Sign up for POTC’s First Annual Wise Minds Summit: How to Adapt and Thrive in Today’s Challenging Times

About Benjamin Schoendorff

Benji Schoendorff

 

Benjamin Schoendorff is a licensed psychologist and international trainer living near Montreal. Benji has a passion for helping people get unstuck and move toward valued living and travels the world over to train clinicians from all backgrounds in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and Functional Analytic Psychotherapy (FAP). In addition to his clinical and training practice, he currently researches ACT in the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder as part of the Montreal university mental health institute.

As an author and trainer, Benji is renowned for his down-to-earth, authentic, relationship-centered and deeply compassionate style. He believes effective science-based methods to get unstuck are too precious to remain confined to academia and has made it his life mission to disseminate them in an engaging and easily accessible way. Simple, but not simplistic. Benji dreams of a scientific psychology in the service of spreading love, peace and understanding.

He has written books and chapters in French and English including co-authoring The Essential Guide to the ACT Matrix and The ACT Practitioner's Guide to the Science of Compassion.

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Attention, acceptance, appreciation, affection, and allowing. These five words (Richo's "Five A’s") are necessary ingredients to any healthy relationship, but many of us don’t start off with them in our relationship pantry. In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, co-host Yael is joined by Dr. Dave Richo, author of How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving. Join us as Yael and Dave discuss the power of the Five A’s. You'll learn how fulfilling these needs affects both our personal growth and our behavior in relationships. So grab your partner (and your ingredients!), and join Yael and Dave today to learn more about how to be an adult in your relationship. 

Listen and Learn: 

Yael and Debbie’s real life hacks to meeting “The Five A’s”

What makes Dave's, How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving, so enduringly helpful for people

Dave’s expert breakdown of the ideal goals for adults in relationships

Professional, evidence-based advice for how to (healthily) orient around “The Five A’s” in your relationship

How your childhood experiences may be impacting your relationship 

The way mindfulness applies to relationships

Dave's approach to productively reframing and working with blame and feelings of rage towards your partner

About avoiding landslides of grief in relationships when years-old mountains of ill will loom nearby (and why it’s important to fully experience that grief instead!)

Practical exercises for reframing your orientation in unhealthy relationships 

How Dave and Yael might apply “The Five A’s” and some of Dave’s tools in therapy with a couple (READ: free thought-exercise for therapists listening in!)

What to do when you’re feeling unloved or unlovable

Resources:

Dave’s book, How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving

Dave's book, Triggers: How We Can Stop Reacting and Start Healing

Anger: Wisdom for Cooling the Flames by Thich Nhat Hanh

The New York Times breakdown of Harry Potter, So You Know Nothing About ‘Harry Potter’? Let’s Catch You Up   

About Dave Richo:

David Richo, PhD, MFT, is a psychotherapist, teacher, workshop leader, and writer who works in Santa Barbara and San Francisco California. He combines Jungian, poetic, and mythic perspectives in his work with the intention of integrating the psychological and the spiritual. His books and workshops include attention to Buddhist and Christian spiritual practices. One of his best sellers, How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving, is going to be coming into its 20th anniversary this fall. Find out more about Dr. Richo on his website, davericho.com. 

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Ending a tumultuous year like 2020 calls for slowing down and reflecting. In this episode, Diana and Debbie take a pause to answer some end of year questions. Then they share their hopes for the New Year. Afterwards, Diana chats with Dr. Stephan Rechtschaffen who is the author of Timeshifting. He is a co-founder of the Omega Institute and Blue Spirit Costa Rica. During the conversation, we explore slowing down, finding intention, and trusting the process. Happy holidays and blessings for a healthy New Year in 2021 from all of us at Psychologists Off the Clock!

Resources for Slowing Down and Reflecting:

Check out Diana’s 20 Journal Prompts to Close 2020 on Instagram @drdianahill

Timeshifting by Stephan Rechtschaffen

How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi

The Brave Learner by Julie Bogart

Neurodharma by Rick Hanson

Slow by Brooke McAlary

Anne Lamott on business and how to find time

Research on time perception and the pandemic

NPR story on how the pandemic has changed our sense of time

Stephan Rechtschaffen M.D.

 

About Stephan Rechtschaffen, M.D.:

 

Stephan Rechtschaffen, M.D. founded Blue Spirit Costa Rica and co-founded the renowned Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, NY. He is a nationally recognized holistic physician who lectures on health, wellness, nutrition, longevity, and time. For decades, he has been involved in developing communities that model sustainable and spiritual dimensions of living a more wholesome and authentic lifestyle. 

He is a coauthor of Vitality and Wellness and author of Timeshifting, a book that focuses on one’s relationship to time and stress amidst the quickening pace of modern life. These interests have drawn him to living and working in the more mindful and slower paced environment of Blue Spirit in Costa Rica.  

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We humans are pretty good at learning from experience, and it turns out, it’s not all in our heads — it’s in our bodies too! In this week’s episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Rebekkah LaDyne explains how both our minds and our bodies learn from stressful experiences. Rebekkah talks with our co-host, Debbie, about how undersupported, overwhelming, and unwanted life events can dictate how we respond to future stress and overwhelm. The learning that takes place in those events can get in the way of effective responding for years to come. Bring your mind and your body, and join us in this episode to learn some body-based practices to help you more effectively respond to stress and overwhelm! 

In this Podcast You'll Learn:

About Rebekkah, Diana, and Debbie’s personal experiences with stress and overwhelm 

How day-to-day stress is different from overwhelm 

About the process of becoming overwhelmed and what to do when/if you’re there

Rebekkah’s expert breakdown of hyper-activation, hypo-activation, and functional activation

What’s actually happening and what to do when it feels like you’re spinning out 

The important differences between freeze, fight, and flight mode and how they affect you physiologically

Why “thinking your way out” of overwhelm doesn’t work and a few (expert-approved) methods that do

Rebekkah’s empirically-based approach to dealing with stress and overwhelm 

Practical exercises for returning to a felt sense of ease and well-being

Resources

Rebekkah’s book, The Mind-Body Stress Reset: Somatic Practices to Reduce Overwhelm and Increase Well-Being

Check out our First Annual Psychologists Off the Clock Wise Minds Summit for all sorts of self-care goodness!

Rebekkah LaDyne

About Rebekkah LaDyne

Rebekkah has spent twenty-five years in the field of embodied well-being.  After working in therapeutic mindfulness for 15 years, she studied Mind-Body Medicine at Saybrook University and conducted clinical research in somatic self-regulation.  Based on her research in mind-body medicine, her comprehensive training with the Somatic Experiencing Institute, and her decades of professional experience, she authored The Mind-Body Stress Reset, with a foreword by Kathy Kain and endorsed by Peter Levine. 

In addition to her book, she has recorded several wellness CDs, appears on the radio, and YouTube. As a somatic wellness specialist, she meets with clients online from all over the globe in her.  Rebekkah lives with her husband, two daughters, and their puppy-dog in the San Francisco Bay Area. You can learn more about Rebekkah on her website. 

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For far too long, women have been held responsible for completing an unfair share of work (especially invisible labor) at home. Even if a woman works a full-time job outside of the home, she is often also expected to complete the majority of domestic and emotional labor. What’s to be done about all the “invisible work” women do to keep partnerships afloat? In today’s episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Eve Rodsky, author of Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live), and co-host Jill answer that question. Women have been held to an unreachable standard for too long. Now, take a breather, and join us to learn about creating equal partnerships at home, navigating unmanageable demands, and much, much more!

Listen and Learn:

About Jill, Diana, and Eve’s personal struggles with trying to be the perfect partner, mother, and worker

How an invisible “I should do” list might be affecting your life and your relationship

Some important (and shocking!) statistics on how motherhood affects women 

Why women’s invisible workload matters and how you can help shift the system that supports it

Eve’s breakdown of Fair Play - her empirically based, step-by-step system for impacting lasting change in your partnership

The important differences between playing fair and keeping score with your partner

How modeling good-partner-behavior might impact your kids for the better

About Jill’s experience playing Eve’s card-game, The Fair Play Deck (and Eve’s tips-and-tricks for playing fairly)

How to connect your work-time balance to your values through a minimum standard of care 

Resources:

Eve’s book, Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live)

The accompanying card deck for Eve’s book, The Fair Play Deck: A Couple's Conversation Deck for Prioritizing What's Important  

Marianne Cooper’s work on women in the workplace and more  

Jill’s 2020 report on women in the workplace

About Eve Rodsky, J.D.

Eve Rodsky is working to change society one marriage at a time by coming up with a new 21st century solution to an age-old problem: women shouldering the brunt of childrearing and domestic life responsibilities regardless of whether they work outside the home.

In her New York Times bestselling book Fair Play, she uses her Harvard Law School training and years of organizational management experience to create a life-management system to help couples both rebalance all of the work it takes to run a home and reimagine their relationship, time and purpose.

Eve Rodsky received her B.A. in economics and anthropology from the University of Michigan, and her J.D. from Harvard Law School. After working in foundation management at J.P. Morgan, she founded the Philanthropy Advisory Group to advise high-net worth families and charitable foundations on best practices for harmonious operations, governance and disposition of funds. In her work with hundreds of families over a decade, she realized that her expertise in family mediation, strategy, and organizational management could be applied to a problem closer to home – a system for couples seeking balance, efficiency, and peace in their home. Rodsky was born and raised by a single mom in New York City and now lives in Los Angeles with her husband and their three children. Visit her website to learn more! 

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Sleep is a hot topic right now, and many health experts argue your sleep is as important as eating well and exercising for your mental and physical health. Sleep medicine research has advanced a lot, and there is new information about what it is and why we do it, and strategies that work for insomnia. We can all rest easy because in this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, co-host Diana is joined by one of the top experts -- Dr. Rafael Pelayo from Stanford Health Care Sleep Medicine Center. In this episode, Dr. Pelayo, author of How to Sleep, provides an overview of sleep, sleep’s function, and strategies to help you get a better night’s rest tonight. Get cozy, and join us to take a deep dive into the world of sleep and change yours for the better!

 

Listen and Learn:

 

The different stages, the cycles within the stages, and what happens when any of those are interrupted

What the function of dreams might be

The indications of remembering (or not remembering) your dreams 

What happens when we experience insomnia and how to put it to bed

How our phones (or, as Dr. Pelayo calls them, our handheld computers) are impacting our sleep and what to do about it

What to do when you wake up in the night (Hint: It’s not what you think!)

How to get your kids to fall asleep and stay in bed

Dr. Pelayo’s expert opinion on co-sleeping

About Diana and Dr. Pelayo’s personal experiences with winding down before bedtime

What to look for and when it’s the right time to visit a specialist 

Why you should probably go visit a doctor if your snoring every night

 

Sleep Resources:

 

Dr. Pelayo’s book, How to Sleep: The New Science-Based Solutions for Sleeping Through the Night

Visit Diana's website to get her FREE meditation to help you fall asleep

Check out our First Annual Psychologists Off the Clock Wise Minds Summit where Dr. Paleyo will offer a live question and answer session!

 

About Rafael Pelayo, MD:

 

Dr. Rafael Pelayo

 

Dr. Rafael Pelayo, author of How to Sleep, is a clinical professor at Stanford University where he co-authored the textbook for and continues to teach the popular Sleep and Dreams undergraduate course (where you may get squirted with a water gun for sleeping!). Since 1993, he has worked with the Stanford Health Care Sleep Medicine Center. His initial exposure to sleep medicine was as a medical student working with Dr. Michael Thorpy at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. He joined the Stanford Sleep Disorders Clinic in 1993 as a fellow and never left. In 2013, he was appointed as a clinical professor at the Sleep Medicine division of the department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science at Stanford University. Dr. Pelayo’s clinical focus has been the treatment of sleep disorders in patients of all ages. He has lectured nationally and internationally and has appeared frequently in television, radio, and print. He has served as chair of the Sleep Disorders Research Advisory Board of the National Center for Sleep Disorders Research at the National Heart Lung Blood Institute at the NIH. He has also chaired the pediatric special interest section of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine. You can find out more about Dr. Pelayo on his Stanford profile or at the California Sleep Society webpage. 

 

 

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Working parenthood is hard, and even the most Instagram-perfect parents and professionals have their fair share of tears, overwhelm, guilt, and anxiety. Though there are no simple solutions,  learning how to work and parent more mindfully can help you build greater success and have more joy. Join our conversation with Lori Mihalich-Levin, author of Back to Work After Baby: How to Plan and Navigate a Mindful Return from Maternity Leave, founder of Mindful Return, and Working Mother Magazine's “working mama guru.” Lori talks with co-host Yael about the ins and outs of mindful working parenthood. When you tune in, you'll learn tips that can help you work and parent more successfully and more joyfully, even in the face of the day-to-day challenges working parents experience. So go ahead and snuggle your nearest kiddo while you learn how to more mindfully enjoy your baby and your career!

Listen and Learn:

What motivates Lori and her personal tips on how to take on the impossible in work and parenting

Why companies fail to retain women after they have children

How to be a psychologically flexible working parent

About the strategies Lori uses in her personal life to navigate parenting, her career, and her sanity

What mindfulness is, what it involves, and how to be mindful in your own life

Recommendations for parents who struggle with the guilt that often accompanies juggling multiple roles

How to plan effectively (even if you aren’t a self-proclaimed planning nerd like Lori!)

Why boundaries are necessary and how you can establish them

Lori’s tips for using your parenting skills to become a more effective leader at work

How to build community, and why you should

About the importance of passion projects for your work as a parent and your work at work!

About Lori’s work in diversifying her Mindful Return courses to meet the needs of more individuals, including dads and parents of children with special needs

Work, Parenting, and Mindfulness Resources Mentioned in This Episode

Lori’s Mindful Return Program (and the mom-specific,  dad-specific, and parents of children with special needs versions, as well as a course for employers)

Lori’s book, Back to Work After Baby: How to Plan and Navigate a Mindful Return from Maternity Leave

The Free Meditation App - Insight Timer

Emily Oster’s book, Cribsheet: A Data-Driven Guide to Better, More Relaxed Parenting, from Birth to Preschool

Lori's podcast, Parents at Work

Parenting in a Pandemic support groups for moms and dads

About "Working Mama Guru" Lori Mihalich-Levin, JD

Lori is the founder of Mindful Return, author of Back to Work After Baby: How to Plan and Navigate a Mindful Return from Maternity Leave, and creator of the Mindful Return Maternity Leave E-Course. She is mama to two wonderful red-headed boys (ages 7 and 9), is the co-host of the Parents at Work Podcast, and is a partner in the health care practice at Dentons US LLP. Her passion is empowering new parents by providing them with the strategies and tools they need to be present with their babies and in their careers. Lori’s work has appeared in the New York Times Parenting, The Washington Post, Thrive Global, and The Huffington Post. And just recently, she was featured in The Female CEO Magazine.

Lori holds a law degree from the Georgetown University Law Center and completed her undergraduate studies at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. She has been committed to promoting women’s equality and leadership throughout her career. Most recently, she founded and Co-Chaired for two years Dentons’ Parent Professional Network (now ParentsLEAD). In her prior job, she founded both the Returning to Work Community (RWC) for mothers at Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) who return to work from maternity leave and a D.C. Health Policy Lean in Circle. As an undergraduate at Princeton, she wrote her thesis on immigrant women in France who were victims of domestic violence...

In his TEDx talk, Michael Herold, public speaker, confidence coach, and podcaster extraordinaire, says, “Things you will achieve in your life, you will achieve because of your disability, not in spite of it.” In this week’s episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Michael talks with Debbie and Yael about confidence, self-doubt, and overcoming limitations.

Limitations are all around us. These might be thoughts about how unqualified we are, feelings of anxiety, or even physical disabilities such as spinal muscular atrophy, but Michael Herold has some good news. We can overcome the limitations that come from our own heads, by taking Comfort Zone Challenges! Join us in this episode to learn about how to work with those limitations, instead of against them, to achieve the life you want. 

The Psychologists Off the Clock are excited to welcome Michael aboard as our new Strategic Consultant. Join us to for this episode to meet Michael and learn about our new team member! 

Listen and Learn

How to build confidence and step outside your comfort zone

About Michael’s transition from animator to public speaker, coach, and podcaster 

Why Acceptance and Commitment Therapy resonates with Michael and how it changed his life 

How Michael’s disability, spinal muscular atrophy, has shaped his unique perspective 

How you can use values to overcome your limitations

About motivational porn and the microaggressions we often use when discussing people who have ‘overcome’ disability-related limitations

Why it’s so important to connect with people and how to do that 

Inside information on how Coach Michael works to build his clients’ confidence 

Tips and tricks from the master himself on how to build your own confidence

Resources from this Podcast Episode

Michael's TEDx talk 

Michael’s website

Michael's podcast: The Art of Charm  

The Art of Charm Podcast's Episode featuring Michael 

The Art of Charm Podcast's Core Confidence Program 

Viktor Frankl's Book: Man's Search for Meaning 

Michael’s Short Film “When I grow up”

All of Michael’s short animated films 

Michael Herold

 

About Michael Herold

Early in his life, doctors told Michael Herold’s parents that his severe disability would keep him from living a normal life. The doctors were right. Michael’s life has been anything but normal. In fact, he is quite a renaissance man. For over a decade, Michael was a successful animator for Nickelodeon and worked on a variety of shows including Penguins of Madagascar and Kung Fu Panda. He currently does public speaking around the world and has recently spoken in front of parliament and given a TEDx talk. Michael also uses skills and exercises from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy to provide coaching on a variety of life-skills including public speaking, self-doubt, communication, and, primarily, confidence. Visit Michael’s website to find out more! 

 

 

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