We continue with Joe Poirot from Santa Cruz and Graig Miller of Midlife Cards to unpack the PSA ex-employee interview, NDAs, research room mechanics, potential bias, and why transparency and grader notes still lag. Jeremy recalls a 2009 PSA tour, we react to regrade experiments and consistency concerns, and debate what is truly bubble resistant: low supply icons or well centered, high eye appeal copies. Then it is the set registry’s relevance, whether graders should be certified and better paid, and Joe signs off while teeing up a Messi vs Gretzky GOAT question for later.

Highlights

NDA takeaways and research room vs grading room implications

Tours, grader notes, and whether new tech equals tougher grading

Regrade experiments, inconsistency, and the cost of resubs

What holds value best: low supply icons vs centered, high eye appeal copies

Set registry reality: leaderboard vs true card quality

Should graders be certified and paid like professionals

Part wraps with Joe’s exit and a Messi vs Gretzky prompt for later

Recorded: Saturday, September 13, 2025

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