Sports Cards Nonsense

Mike has company today, as Jesse is back off the IL (Gout). We get into Jason Kelce's $30k hobby adventure and how he was completely misled about the boxes he bought. Mike has a bone to pick with the shipping from Fanatics Instant Rips. Plus, how much would you need to give up a misprinted 1-of-1 card?

Plus, we hit voicemails and have a new member of the SCN Mt. Rushmore.

0:00- Intro

9:15 - SGC 9.5 vs. PSA 9 market price differences

13:55 - Buying SGC or BGS 9s is a nice little hack for PC cards

15:00 - Jason Kelce spends $35,000 to chase Brady rookie cards

29:30 - Shipping for the Fanatics Instant Rips has been a disaster. Shipping has to be secure. 

39:00 - Topps offers $400 fancash for a 1/1 Ronnie Lott Tecmo Bowl; Gio says to turn it down and ask for $5k

1:10:25 - 2000s eTopps Cards have gone up massively

1:18:00 - Checking in with a 5th grade teacher about what kids are collecting

1:33:30 - WNBA Investing Update

VOICEMAIL MT RUSHMORE:

Larry

Beefcake

Hans Gruber

Franco, Not Wander

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In this episode, we find out how many Mike's are too many without Jesse, who is out sick. Mike Gio and Mike Sterk look at the hobby values of the players who won so far in the MLB Playoffs. Plus, Mike and Mike share their misery about the Red Sox and Cubs being out. Looking at the Mantle and Ohtani markets.

Then we are joined by Michael Katz from Trove, making it four Mikes on the show. We get his hobby backstory and his Mt. Rushmore of Boston Sports.

We wrap up with the news that Larry is confirmed to be coming to town, which begs the question: should Sterk and Brendan come as well?

0:00-Intro + MLB Playoffs

8:00 - Looking at the hobby value of playoff winners

13:30 - Mantle vs. Ohtani in the market

24:00 - Michael Katz interview, CEO/Founder of Trove

33:05 - What was his education process getting back in the hobby?

45:00 - Boston Sports Mt. Rushmore

48:55 - Mike hits Gio about his eBay Live

1:07:30 - Gio has no interest in Nate Bargatze coming on the show

1:12:15 - Sterk wants to buy PSA 8s vs. Raw

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Mike and Jesse are joined by Funcle in the studio today (and Papa Gio, kind of) to look back at most of Week 3 in the NFL. Why it might be too late to sell some of your non-rookies for football. Funcle's guide to buying and grading in the current market. The Cooper Flagg Debut Patch wrapped up at auction, and Mike thinks people have too much money. Plus, are cards now status symbols? Wrapping up with the Mt. Rushmore of non-sports cards.

0:00 - Intro and Funcle in studio

12:30 - NFL Buy/Sell after Week 3

14:30 - Better to sell football before the season starts, as guys will sell more in preseason than once the season starts

17:25 - What is Funcle buying to grade these days?

29:15 - Differences between the major sports as investment pieces

37:35 - The Cooper Flagg Debut Patch Auto sold for $8M, but how outrageous is that sale?

42:00 - Are cards turning into status symbols?

47:15 - Why aren’t Bowman Chrome U more popular for football and basketball like Bowman prospects for baseball?

1:05:00 - Tips for vending at a card show

1:13:40 - Are PED suspensions a death sentence for hobby value?

1:36:00 - Who is the most underrated athlete?

1:39:45 - Mount Rushmore for Non-Sports

Voicemail Mt. Rushmore:

Larry

Beefcake

Hans Gruber

Caleb

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Mike and Jesse open the show, airing a few grievances while Jesse ponders life and how far behind he is in the SCN Challenge. A new scam involving high-end counterfeit cards is causing concern. Plus, Joe Bartel from RotoWire joins to look at the football market after Week 2 in the NFL, the markets for backup QBs, and why you shouldn't trust young, unproven QBs. Wrapping up with voicemails and Casey Kravit from Fanatics to discuss a new Instant Rips for Topps Pristine Basketball.

0:00 - Intro and the airing of grievances

11:00 - DC Sports 87 pulls cards after noticing counterfeit cards.

18:00 - You have to root these people out of the hobby.

22:30 - Joe Bartel of RotoWire joins the show.

23:00 - Any of the backup quarterbacks worth investing in?

31:00 - Is Tyler Shough for real? 

33:30 - Penny stock running backs and wide receivers to invest in.

40:00 - Justin Herbert’s market is about to go in the tank.

50:25 - Is Funcle going to take the third chair from Papa Gio on Monday?

54:05 - The Introduction of the “Gio 300” and “Jesse 300”

57:25 - Kicking off voicemails

1:03:35 - Time to rename the show “Stupid Watch Nonsense”

1:18:00 - Beefcake on setting up at shows

1:21:35 - Casey Kravit from Fanatics on the new Instant Rips

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Mike and Jesse are back after a chaotic Week 2 in the NFL. Major injuries across the league have thrown a wrench into the NFL season, the SCN Challenge, fantasy football, and more. Mike has the most important rule about football cards you can hear. Plus, we get to Steve Sloan from Heystack to discuss his time in the hobby, the prospect of collecting a team that is leaving your city, and the tech Heystack has that you need. Wrapping up with voicemails!

0:00 - Intro & why you need to sell football whenever a player has a big game.

10:00 - Breaking down Week 2 in the NFL

30:00 - Steve Sloan from Heystack joins the podcast and discusses his history in the hobby

41:15 - What is Steve Sloan collecting these days

45:30 - The biggest concern Steve has in the hobby is a prolonged MLB work stoppage

52:15 - Favorite PC pieces are Oakland A’s and Macklin Celebrini

58:10 - We need regulation in the card-breaking industry to cut down in the Wild West attitude.

1:05:10 - Voicemails presented by Trove

1:09:25 - Frozenfractor isn’t going to age well, but looking at some of the Topps case hits could hold value long-term. Kaiju

1:15:30 - What to do with a football hit out of Flagship

1:30:00 - Looking at the prices of Definitive Basketball and how breakers jacked up pricing on it

1:32:30 - Dark predictions for the hobby

1:41:00 - Can SCN scale the SCN Challenge?

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Larry

Hans Gruber

Caleb

Donny

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Mike and Jesse are back with Papa Gio, discussing the ideal time to sell in certain markets and whether you can even time them. Plus, looking at NFL markets after Week 1 and who is worth buying/selling right now. Breaking down Week 1 of the SCN Challenge. The most expensive Topps product yet. Wrapping up talking with Justin Steele of the Cubs and hitting voicemails.

0:00 - Intro + health scares

7:45 - When do you sell? What is the correct time to do it? 

19:25 - Looking at how Shough, Lawrence, and Caleb Williams are up big. 

24:30 - SCN Challenge Update

30:00 - Fanatics is opening a second Flagship store in Paris

37:00 - Topps Definitive coming out at nearly 40k per case

39:30 - Checking in with Justin Steele

46:45 - Steele is back on top, and PCA is falling down the ladder of favorite show-adjacent athletes

1:00:00 - Best practices for listings on eBay

1:05:00 - Could Fanatics start making sports movie card sets?

1:13:55 - There are so many Cooper Flagg cards

1:35:45 - The future of redemptions from Panini as they keep pushing towards points.

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Leonard Fournette joins Mike and Jesse in the studio in Nashville to discuss his love of the hobby, his Pokemon collection, and the location of his future card shop on LSU's campus. Plus, we hit the voicemails to get the latest from Larry and more! However, we have to lead with the situation surrounding Fanatics Emanate and why it is a bad look, but Mike and Jesse don't think it affects the card market.

0:00 - Intro and Fanatics Collect Shipping Manifest Left in package

3:55 - If this were a card product, it would be a huge scandal. Is it a good look? No, it’s quite terrible. 

6:30 - Topps has made it clear that card products are randomized and distributed randomly, but the fact that a shipping manifest exists raises questions about the cards.

11:55 - Opening week in the NFL was rough for Mike’s takes

22:50 - Leonard Fournette Interview

57:05 - Takeaways from Leonard Fournette and favorite moments.

1:04:35 - Mark Wahlberg entering the card space with Paradise Breaks.

1:07:00 - Calling Wesley to discuss the Cooper Flagg shop opening. 

1:12:25 - Larry is coming to Nashville to see the boys. 

1:20:00 - Voicemails leading with Larry. 

1:40:00 - Ripping Arena Club packs

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The NFL is back, and Drake Maye got off to an awful start. Looking at Maye's market and what other young quarterbacks will need to do to see positive movement in the card market this year. PSA released good news yesterday by opening a new grading tier. Plus, a new center in Europe will help lower the backlog. Wrapping up with voicemails on vintage cards, expensive wax, and Larry Legend's return.

0:00 - Intro

2:00 - Drake Maye struggled

9:00 - Looking at quarterbacks around the league

16:00 - PSA updates tier names, creates a new tier, and updates turnaround times

30:00 - Voicemails

44:00 - Looking at vintage cards

1:00:00 - Wax is too expensive

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Football season is so different from other sports, and each game has an outsized impact on a card market. Introducing the SCN Challenge and breaking down Mike and Jesse's teams. Hitting voicemails, as Larry Legend already has impersonators.

0:00 - Intro and why Football season is so different from everything else

9:00 - Intro to the SCN Challenge

21:00 - Mike crushes Jesse’s picks

29:00 - Can a non-rookie ever be a player's best card?

37:00 - Larry already has impersonators

43:40 - Could we be nearing a Shohei Ohtani plateau? He’s never had base autos, but it's similar to Tom Brady in that he doesn’t sign a lot. 

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With the NFL season kicking off in a week, we look at the rookie class and wonder: since it is so bad, will collectors go back to the 2024 class? That and more with Joe Bartel from RotoWire. Plus, with Topps Chrome Update Sapphire Basketball out today, is it worth grading anything, or should you sell everything immediately? Finally, we wrap up with voicemails, and Larry the legend nearly kills Mike.

0:00 - Intro

3:00 - With new products, what should you do with big hits you are planning to sell? 

4:15 - If you hit anything, you need to sell it immediately.

7:30 - If you’re planning on selling anything after release, you need to sell it all immediately. 

20:00 - SGC vs. PSA

29:00 - Joe Bartel joins to talk NFL

31:00 - NFL rookies to chase, but it’s a rough class

33:15 - Buying in on Jayden Daniels? Or looking back at the 2024 class in general?

38:00 - Is this a time to buy back in Mahomes, despite not having high fantasy value?

53:20- Larry called back in and nearly killed Mike

1:04:00- What happened to Beckett?

1:06:45 - Time to buy Aaron Judge

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