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In this episode of The Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni sits down with Missouri middle school teacher and author Philip Wire to unpack a provocative and timely topic: Are schools getting trauma-informed education right—or missing the mark entirely?

Inspired by Philip’s bold book, "Trauma-Informed Tragedy: How Schools Got Trauma Part Right and Part Wrong," this conversation dives deep into the well-intentioned yet sometimes misguided practices that have emerged in the name of supporting students with trauma.

Dr. Paulie and Phil explore: 

✅ What schools are doing well in addressing trauma
✅ Where the system is falling short—and even causing harm
✅ Why good intentions aren't enough without behaviorally sound strategies
✅ How educators can actually empower students without overaccommodating dysfunction

This is not your average trauma talk. It’s a raw, respectful, and practical conversation between two professionals committed to helping—not harming—students through real, actionable solutions.

🎧 Tune in now to hear what it really means to be trauma-informed—and how to do it better.

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