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In this episode Coleman interviews Niall Ferguson. Niall is the Milbank Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, and a senior faculty fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard. He is also a visiting professor at Tsinghua University in Beijing. Niall has authored 15 books, including: ‘The Pity of War', ‘The House of Rothschild’, ‘Empire’, ‘Civilization’, and ‘Kissinger: The Idealist’ — which won the Council on Foreign Relations, Arthur Ross Prize. He is also an award-winning filmmaker having won an International Emmy for his PBS series, ‘The Ascent of Money’. In addition to writing a regular column for Bloomberg, he's the Founder and Managing Director of Greenmantle LLC.

During this episode, they talk about the concept of counterfactual history, Trump's response to COVID-19, and how our political culture might look different if Hillary were elected. They also talked about the deteriorating relationship between the US and China and the prospect of a second Cold War. Please note, this conversation happened way back on September 1, so if you're wondering why they don't talk about the first debate or Trump having COVID, that's why.

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