Would former President Barack Obama or former Vice President Kamala Harris have been able to get away with treating the President of Ukraine the same way President Donald Trump did? Independent journalist in Ukraine Terrell Jermaine Starr makes the point in a conversation with Victor and former U.S. Army Major General Dana Pittard about the contentious oval office meeting.

Plus, a Native American women's basketball team is caught up in the federal cuts ordered by President Trump. Victor speaks with the coach at Haskell Indian Nations University, Adam Strom, who is still leading his student-athletes as they compete for a championship despite going unpaid.

Also being impacted by a Trump administration order is a concert featuring students of color and “The President's Own” United States Marine Band. Victor speaks with two composers, Kevin Charoensri and Carlos Simon, who were going to have their pieces performed before it all got canceled.

Later, Victor speaks with “Exonerated 5” member Raymond Santana about his decision to seek political office in New York City.

And the story behind a law school portrait that looks unlike any other. Victor speaks Saint Louis University School of Law’s William Johnson and artist Cbabi Bayoc about why they came together to send a racial justice message that a lot of schools across the country are now backing away from.

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