Donald Trump likes to insult Venezuela and its people. But Trump has a lot in common with Hugo Chávez, the strongman who ruled Venezuela from 1999 until his death in 2013, and is often blamed for the once-prosperous country’s turn away from democracy, and decline into poverty.

In this episode of Rhyming Chaos, we discuss what the U.S. can learn from Venezuela with Parsifal D’Sola, a Venezuelan and advisor in 2019 to the country’s interim government.

Parsifal is the founder and Executive Director of the Andrés Bello Foundation — China Latin America Research Center, and a non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Global China Hub.

The Rhyming Chaos podcast is produced by Jeremy Goldkorn and edited by Cadre Scripts. The theme music is Erik Satie’s Gymnopédie No. 1, arranged and performed by Wu Fei. Our cover art is by Li Yunfei.

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