Today Ken welcomes writer, director Penelope Spheeris (Wayne's World, The Decline of Western Civilization).

Ken and Penelope discuss growing up poor, sneaking TV, the Wonderful World of Disney, Saturday Matinees, hippie drug culture, Dragnet, punk rock scare films, 60 Minutes, the horrors of corporate mergers, the death of true journalism, Wayne's World, Beverly Hillbillies, The Little Rascals, Green Acres, Ken as Wikipedia, drones, comedians and the dark side of life, Richard Pryor, The Decline of Western Civilization, The Boys Next Door, Dudes, tone shifts, horror and comedy as cousins, Ken finding a dead body, UCLA Film School, being a music video pioneer, filming The Parliament Funkadelic Mothership, directing opportunities for women, Albert Brooks, Saturday Night Live, Real Life, Lorne Michaels impressions, being a good person, fear of being poor, American Family, Suburbia, cooking shows, violence on TV, being perplexed by Game of Thrones, true documentaries, and Ken's weird brain.