Today Ken welcomes writer, special make up FX master and pseudo-Mad Scientist Steve Johnson to the show.

Ken and Steve discuss making the television Ken talks about, moving to CA from Texas at age 18, Merv, Steve's book Rubberhead, Rick Baker, An American Werewolf in London, John Landis, Stephen King, Hammer Horror, Universal Monsters, Tom Savini, the birth of Gore, holographic contact lenses, Innocent Blood, Joe Hill, Max Landis, Tom Atkins, The Stand, Stephen King on Television, The Shining TV mini-series, Steven Webber, Maximum Overdrive crew shirts, Friedkin's Bug, Danse Macabre, The Incredible Shrinking Man, old school studio employee make up fx guys, Dick Smith, matching the age spots on the Exorcist, Freaked, Screaming Mad George, covering A-List actors in character make up, Tales from the Darkside, Monsters, Organ Donor parts, German versions, Glim Glim, The Horror Hall of Fame, making frogs for Magnolia, Ernie Anderson, working on Ghostbusters, Slimer, ending the debate of the Zombie cab driver, CGI, puppeteering, and how Spinder-Man 2 can put gas in your car.