October 22 - November 2, 1979

Today Ken welcomes actress Cathy Podewell (Dallas, Growing Pains, Night of the Demons) to the show.

Ken and Cathy discuss her pre-work, Studs Terkel, Riverdale, growing up in Chicago, the coolest artifact ever brought on the show, TV Forecast, Kukla, Fran & Ollie, golden age of live TV, legacy acting families, Lady Blue, why everyone should wait tables for two weeks, the importance of empathy, Halloween, Nightmares, The Beverly Center, Eight is Enough, Charlie's Angels, Saturday Night Live, CHiPs, Earth Angel, Erik Estrada, Made for-TV Movies, Love Boat, Cindy Williams, Mark Hamill, getting to work with amazing people, being surprised by your own experiences, Spenser for Hire, Dallas, Growing Pains, being famous for TV, doing stand up for Jennifer Garner, Justine Bateman, Nielson families, Ken's dream guests, being on Oprah, Paul Reubens, still having your wedding dress from marrying J.R., kissing Brad Pitt on tape, famous hunks who are bad kissers, Night of the Demons, shared experience, return to Dallas, staying at The Biltmore while they were shooting Mad Men, The White Shadow, The Bradys, Dramas spun off from comedies, Steve Johnson, the comfort of clunky dials, The Waltons, Johnny Depp, John Malkovic stories, people who become movie stars, Christine McCormick in Night of the Demons 2, Shelley Long, being afraid of Paul Williams, the horrors of Phantom of the Paradise, how far TV goes today, getting back into acting but hating the business of the business, Chuck Jones, the Pumpkin Who Couldn't Smile, The Great Pumpkin, Real People, Salem MA, and the wonders of water skiing squirrels.