Today Ken welcomes fellow Massachusetts escapee and until very recently the showrunner of the excellent and criminally non-renewed "Busy Tonight", the great Caissie St. Onge.

Ken and Caissie discuss Busy Tonight, leaving Massachusetts, New England rage, why "it must be nice", Fitchburg state college, being David Letterman's assistant, 30 Rock, writing letters, being in the trenches of the Late Night Wars, mid 80s TV, WLVI TV56, WSBK TV38, growing up on a farm, how reception drove your viewing habits, Creature Double Feature, watching MTV at your grandparent's house, double featuring Jaws and the Exorcist on HBO, Ken's grandfather, The Outsiders, Red Dawn's dirty joke...maybe?, The Day After, how reading leads to drug addiction, Wacky Races, diverting from the course, Tennessee Tuxedo, Ben McKenzie, having your children discover The OC on their own, Best Week Ever, discovering the world via TV, New York City and all it's separate neighborhoods, Rosie O'Donnell, making googly eyes at Frank Oz, working with the Sesame St Muppets, Wonder Pets, Judy Gold, playing in the school band, gorging on fund raiser chocolate, soda machines in the teacher's lounge, surviving embarrassing school incidents, being an only child, Bonnie Hunt, women in television, Tina Fey, Carol Burnett, why women don't get to be eccentric, Laverne and Shirley, Gilmore Girls, Townies, watching things that just look nice, Boardwalk Empire, The Chevy Chase Show, shared experience, Big Mouth, hope for the future, how difficult it is to plug things in the time shift future, Saturday Morning cartoon previews, the pleasure of not binge watching, investing in things, how too much choice can be overwhelming, Pizzeria Uno, and Ken and Caissie's pact to re-unite in 20 years and do a Part II.