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Two Jacks - Episode 132: Halloween, Prince Andrew, and the Future of Patriotism


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Episode recorded: October 31, 2025

Hosts: Joel Hill (Jack the Insider) and Jack (Hong Kong Jack)

Episode Title Suggestions:
  1. "Halloween, Heists, and the House of Windsor"
  2. "From Prince Andrew to Patriotism: A Global Round-Up"
  3. "The Great Unraveling: Royals, Republics, and Rock T-Shirts"
  4. "Crown Jewels, Cricket, and Cultural Appropriation"
  5. "Episode 132: When Privilege Meets Reality"
Show Notes with Timestamps

00:00:26 - Welcome & Halloween Celebrations

The Jacks kick off with a discussion about Halloween and All Souls Day, debating whether it's an American import or a genuine cultural celebration. Hong Kong Jack describes the costume-clad children heading to school and the refreshing lack of political correctness in Halloween dress.

00:03:15 - Americanisation of Culture Debate

Jack challenges the hypocrisy of those who complain about American cultural influence while wearing blue jeans, sneakers, and listening to rock and roll.

00:04:16 - Prince Andrew's Downfall

Deep dive into Prince Andrew's stripping of royal titles and exile to Sandringham. The hosts discuss the ongoing Epstein scandal, alleged misconduct, and the monarchy's survival strategy. Jack the Insider argues this is about protecting the institution itself, not just managing Andrew's behavior.

00:08:25 - Royal Entitlement & The Succession

Discussion of Andrew's bloated sense of entitlement, his eighth place in line to the throne, and comparisons to Edward VIII. The hosts debate whether the Royal Family can truly cut Andrew adrift or if he remains a necessary burden.

00:12:36 - Copyright, Paywalls, and Making a Dollar

Analysis of a copyright controversy involving an aggregator charging $100/month to over 100 prominent Australians for content stolen from behind paywalls. The Australian media's response and the broader implications for journalism funding.

00:20:30 - AI and Copyright Protection

The Albanese government's move to enshrine copyright protections against tech giants like Meta/Facebook, which pirated millions of books to train AI models. The Productivity Commission's controversial position favoring tech companies over creators.

00:24:48 - Can the Left Be Patriotic?

Joe Hildebrand's campaign questioning left-wing patriotism sparks a broader conversation about what Australian values actually mean, the "Build Back Australia" movement, and why we can't manufacture cars anymore.

00:32:27 - The Anzac Day Revival

Tracing how Anzac Day went from near-extinction in the 1970s to becoming a major cultural touchstone, with young Australians traveling to Gallipoli, the Kokoda Track, and other war memorial sites.

00:35:47 - Immigration and Cultural Strength

Jack's powerful argument that the true test of patriotism is whether new arrivals see themselves as Australian and whether our culture is strong enough to absorb them—contrasting with Europe's struggles with multiculturalism.

00:40:13 - Organized Crime and the Tobacco Black Market

Coles announces a 57% drop in cigarette sales as Australia's tobacco excise policies create a multi-billion dollar black market. Discussion of whether reducing excise is the only way to combat entrenched organized crime.

00:47:46 - Stamp Duty as a Housing Barrier

Reserve Bank Governor Michelle Bullock criticizes stamp duty as preventing retirees from downsizing and workers from relocating. Analysis of how $65,000 in stamp duty on a $1.5M property creates market paralysis.

00:50:46 - One Nation Rebrands

Pauline Hanson drops her name from the party as One Nation polls at 15% and builds electoral infrastructure. Comparisons to the Australian Democrats' evolution and discussion of whether they can become a serious second-tier party.

00:54:29 - The Great French Jewel Heist

Updates on arrests following the $150M Louvre heist of French crown jewels—were they criminal masterminds or idiots without an exit plan?

00:55:50 - Japan's First Woman Prime Minister

Japan's impressive new conservative Prime Minister, her Margaret Thatcher connection, and the challenges of governing in Japan's volatile political environment.

00:57:12 - Argentina's Milei Wins Big

Javier Milei's landslide midterm victory (41% of the vote) raises questions about Trump's financial bailout and the role of foreign aid in domestic politics.

00:59:15 - Gaza Ceasefire and Hamas Control

Analysis of the fragile Gaza ceasefire, Hamas reasserting control, and the impossible dilemma of who will enforce peace when no country wants the casualties.

01:02:17 - Anthony Albanese's Joy Division T-Shirt

The controversy over the PM wearing a Joy Division band t-shirt (with Nazi concentration camp origins) off the VIP plane. Jane Hume's dismissal: "Anyone wearing a rock band t-shirt is a bit naff."

01:05:32 - APEC Conference in South Korea

Trump's meetings with Xi Jinping and other Pacific leaders, with results to be determined in the coming months.

01:06:41 - Politicians and Fake Backstories

From George Santos to Gavin Newsom claiming he lived on "Wonder Bread and mac and cheese" despite being from wealthy Getty-connected family. Kevin Rudd's "homeless" car story and Malcolm Turnbull's Double Bay childhood. The Jeanette Howard story: insisting her train driver father be called a "locomotive engineer."

01:11:30 - Iran's Hijab Retreat

After executing protesters over headscarf enforcement, Iran suddenly pulls back on restrictions. Are US and Israeli strikes forcing the regime to moderate for survival?

01:13:47 - The Richest Counties Flip

Andrew Neil's observation: In Eisenhower's era, Republicans won 190 of the 200 richest US counties. In 2024, Kamala Harris won 190 of the 200 richest counties—a complete reversal showing the transformation of party alignment.

01:15:40 - Women's Cricket World Cup

Australia's women lose to India in a thrilling semi-final despite Phoebe Litchfield's brilliance. The hosts argue it's good for the sport to not have one team dominate indefinitely.

01:17:21 - Ashes Selection Speculation

Debate over Australia's top six for the Perth Test: Khawaja and Manus to open, with Smith, Head, Green, and Webster rounding out the batting order. Steve Smith's incredible captaincy stats: averaging 70 with 16 centuries.

01:22:16 - England's Jofra Archer Problem

Questions about whether England will risk selecting injury-prone Archer despite no first-class cricket since July and missing New Zealand ODI games.

01:23:02 - Manchester City's Penalty Drama

Erling Haaland's bizarre penalty miss against Sporting Lisbon becomes an instant meme as City struggles through another challenging season.

01:24:50 - NBA & NHL Updates

Round-up of basketball and hockey action, including standout performances and playoff implications.

01:26:08 - Oasis Reunion in Crisis

Liam Gallagher's voice problems threaten the reunion tour. Discussion of whether the band can survive without Liam's vocals and Noel's brilliance.

01:29:18 - Music Recommendations

The hosts share their latest musical discoveries, from classic rock to contemporary artists making waves internationally.

01:34:24 - Vegetarian Beef Wellington

Jack's bemusement at a restaurant advertisement for "vegetarian beef Wellington"—perhaps a bit too soon after recent cultural controversies.

01:35:10 - Closing & Next Week's Preview

Sign-off with promises of more Trump administration coverage, US job figures, corporate layoffs, and the Democrats' failure to deliver on "jobs, jobs, jobs."

Key Themes This Episode:
  • Royal family crisis management
  • Copyright in the AI age
  • Australian patriotism and immigration
  • Unintended consequences of prohibition policies
  • Political authenticity vs. manufactured backstories
  • Sport as cultural common ground

Two Jacks returns next week for Episode 133 with deep dives into Trump's White House, US economic indicators, and more global affairs analysis.

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