Joey wants to talk about how the artificial constraints of environments and schedules restrict children's ability to meet their needs in any given moment. Tom describes a special type of "flow" that occurs when we give children time in spaces that support a wide range of interests, energy levels, and physical needs. Mike points out how we often use the phrase, "but in the real world," to justify the limits we place on children. What if we offered them a more "real world" environment instead?