Podcast guest 661 is Kathleen Marden is is the niece of the famous Betty Hill wife of Barney Hill who both had an alien encounter in 1961. We talked about her miraculous healing and more. Kathleen is an award-winning researcher, author, on camera expert, and international conference presenter. She is widely considered one of the leading UFO contact researchers of our time. Since 1990, she has researched and experienced the perplexing nature of UFOs and human contact with the non-human entities. She has worked on three comprehensive studies on nearly 5,000 experiencers and has six professionally published books. She is the recipient of the 2021 International UFO Congress "Lifetime Achievement Award." In May 2020, she experienced a life changing event that radically altered her worldview and changed the course of her life’s work. Prior to this she had straddled the uneasy path between scientific materialism and consciousness studies. This profound event and its aftermath led to her spiritual transformation. Her interest in UFOs and contact began in 1961, when her aunt and uncle, Betty and Barney Hill had a close encounter and subsequent abduction in New Hampshire’s White Mountains. She spent fifteen years in painstaking investigation of the Hill abduction case and, as our technology progresses, she continues to seek scientific analysis of the compelling evidence.