In this eye-opening episode, we discuss the growing movement in the UK where citizens are flying the English and British flags, and the resulting governmental backlash labeling it a 'hate movement'. We dive into various incidents including arrests, school detentions, and public shaming centered around displaying national symbols. We also explore the broader implications on free speech with laws against 'grossly offensive' communications and the looming threat of the UK's Online Safety Bill. We delve into historical context, pointing out the disparity between actions taken against British symbolism versus those of other groups. Join us as we question the current state of British national pride, the potential for revolution, and the chilling parallels with dystopian narratives. Operation Raise The Colours

Simone Collins: [00:00:00] in. Narrative dystopias is if you say anything against the government, you know, God forbid, no, no, no. It's literally just supporting your country.

Your country.

Malcolm Collins: Derates you. Well look at it this way. Okay. Suppose the UK was under occupation by a foreign power right now. Yeah. What would that foreign power, what symbol would it fear the most if it was under occupation? By a foreign power? Oh,

Simone Collins: fair. Yeah. Yeah. Like so, so France, when it was occupied. By the axis.

By

Malcolm Collins: the axis, if you had a French flag, you had flew a French

Simone Collins: flag. Yeah. You okay? You're immediately

Malcolm Collins: going to jail. Being

Simone Collins: detained. Being isolated.

Malcolm Collins: certainly a government wouldn't punish people for flying its own flag. So if the government is punished people for flying the British flag, what conceivable reason could it have to do that?

Oh, that's not who's in charge anymore. It is occupied.

Simone Collins: Oh my gosh. Wow.

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: [00:01:00] Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna be talking about a growing movement in the uk in which people are raising the English and British flags. So the, the, the cross of St. James and the Union Jack all over the uk. Nice. The government is of course freaking out about this, calling this a, a hate movement, but the, that it's the government's flag.

Right, but it's a hate movement. So they're doing, it's such a hate movement that one guy, he was complaining, he made a video and I'll post the video here so you can see that. I'm like, not exaggerating. It is a mild video just being like, why are there all these Palestinian flags all over our town? Yeah.

Its not Palestine flag. They go to his house and they arrest him. What? Wait. Whoa. Hold on.

Speaker: This morning and this is the kinda that's going on. Yeah. So there's a look at this. Yeah. You see it. Then over here at this one we've got this crap going on as well. Yeah. And then we come along to this pole here [00:02:00] and they've then done the same here as well. Look at this

Speaker 5: You're talking about, John, have, did you hear that?

Speaker 4: What all those Palestinian flags in Beth Green Road.

Speaker 5: Tread on them! Tread the all over

Speaker 4: them!

Speaker 6: You gotta fight! For your rights! At home in such despair. Now

Speaker 20: Is free speech under threat in the UK? With the rise of so called non crime hate incidents, arrests over grossly offensive memes, and the government's online safety bill threatening to clamp down on social media posts, can you really speak your mind in 21st century Britain?

Speaker 7: bussy. You gotta fight for your

Malcolm Collins: No, we're gonna be going over things that will shock you here. Okay. So, God, I'm glad I live in America. 25 as a 12-year-old Courtney Wright, so a 12-year-old. Okay. A student at Blyton School in rugby work, [00:03:00] Shire participated in a school culture day event designed to celebrate diverse cultural heritage where pupils were encouraged to wear traditional dress representing their backgrounds.

Okay. They were encouraged to wear traditional dress. Celebrating the backgrounds. Okay. Courtney chose to wear a sparkly union jack dress to symbolize her British heritage. Adorable speech about Britain's history, traditions, and cultural elements, right. However, upon her arrival, teachers removed her from lessons, detained her in isolation, and barred her from delivering the speech, and eventually sent her own, claiming the outfit, just a union jack violated the school's dress code or was inappropriate for the event.

Simone Collins: Just to be clear, she is in the United Kingdom. In the United Kingdom on a, and she probably came from hundreds of

Malcolm Collins: years of British descent. Well, not just that, but on a day where. She was instructed to dress in a way that was culturally rep representative of her. Yeah. How else was she? Was she supposed to like appropriate someone else's culture in this case?

[00:04:00] Apparently, yes. She was basically expected to pretend to be something other than British.

Simone Collins: You can't win. Oh my

Malcolm Collins: gosh. I mean, if you talk about the shaming, so we're gonna go over one more crazy incidents of this. We're gonna go over. , Why this is happening. Like, why people are being punished so much for showing pride in their own cultural heritage.

Yeah. And why there's finally pushback to this. Okay. And then what I really wanna discuss is because Asma Gold went over this and he goes, oh, like they're, they're trying to fast track a revolution here. They're,

Simone Collins: yeah, they're speed running V for vendetta.

Malcolm Collins: I actually think a revolution is much more likely in the United States, even though things aren't as bad in the United States.

Mm.

I'd also wanna point out here for people who might say, well, you know, the UK has been a uniquely bad country in history, and that's why you shouldn't, , have their flag on. That's why the flag is so offensive to so many people. And I'd be like, okay, well then you've just been brainwashed. Like, if, if you have an objective understanding of human history, the UK may be one of the most moral players in all of human history.

So for some examples of this. [00:05:00] The uk literally, , long before most countries had had banned slavery, , banned slavery themselves, and then spent six to 10% of their Navy budget, which was the largest part of their military budget at the time, to just. Police, all of the other countries in the world, , to try to make them in slavery.

So it had ships that would go around Africa and it ended up freeing 150,000 enslaved Africans and stopping 1,600 ships. And if you're like, well. You know, certainly African countries, , you know, do not laud the periods where they were slave. Actually they do the Woman King movie about that African country that everyone went crazy about.

That was one of the countries that they had to keep policing. , In fact, they blockhead the ports of that country to get them to end their slave trade. , And after signing an agreement was written that they would stop the slave trade and the blockade ended. They of course, , within a few years went back to slave trading.

But it's not only that the UK also, , when contrasted with other countries like France, gave up [00:06:00] most of their colonies voluntarily. , And not only that, but if you look at where they had colonies, , many of those countries are like developed nice places to live now. You know, whether you're talking about Canada, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, , India, South Africa, , when, if you contrast that with, , , , French colonies or Spanish colonies, , just way, way, way more ethical.

, So yeah, you, you should actually be proud to be British.

All that said though, that is not to say that recently, .

Britain has not descended into a shameful police state.

Malcolm Collins: And we're also gonna be going over, just like the UK has basically been a police state for a while now. Mm. And here I'm gonna post videos, and if you're from the US you're gonna be like. Wait, the government actually made these ads in the uk.

Speaker 8: It's your town, your street, your home. It's all in our database. New technology means it's easy to pay your TV license and impossible to hide if you don't. It's all in the [00:07:00] database.

Malcolm Collins: These are BBC ads for your TV tax. So in the uk if you're suspected of having a TV screen in your house, they will tax you.

Hmm. And they basically, everyone has to pay this now 'cause everyone has a computer screen. And they try to terrorize people into paying this. So your average person in the UK has to pay a pretty high price for B, B, C, even if they don't watch BBC. So, BBC can create. The super woke brainwashy stuff.

It does like the new DR who's and stuff like that. So it's as

Simone Collins: if we had to pay for NPR. Like it wasn't just part of our normal, like every slush fund that goes to the US government, but like separately we had to pay for it. And you had to pay a really high price for it. Yeah. Oh gosh. Like a forced Netflix subscription, even if you hate Netflix, but they like, that's crazy.

Malcolm Collins: They threaten you. In these ads, it's really dystopian. You see this and you're like, oh, they're actually a dystopia.

Speaker 6: Yes, there's a TV set on number five. It's in the front room and they're watching Colombo. If [00:08:00] you don't have a TV license, it won't take as long to find you. I.

Malcolm Collins: And a lot of people don't know like how strict the UK and its laws are before we go into the other flag stuff. Another crazy law in the UK that a lot of people in the US are unaware of is they are so restrictive in their graphic images laws that you can be arrested for having any graphic images, even if it's consensual, where it looks like one person is being injured.

This is including cartoons. Well, thank

Simone Collins: goodness. I mean, the only reason this works and doesn't like have every woman in the UK arrested is that apparently it's just graphic images and not. Written narratives. Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: not written narratives because romance novels would be so screwed. Gray or anything otherwise, half go through Barnes and Nobles and, and burn it.

It would be literally like the, the, the one anime where they, they, they ban all pornography and, and burn all the books and everything. But anyway, yes.

Speaker 9: [00:09:00] A moment.

Malcolm Collins: The next one here. In July, 2025, shortly after the Linin school incident, dozens of pupils at Orton Sandwell Community Academy in Arbery, west Midlands face punishment for wearing union jack badges, stickers, or other accessories during a school event, the students that were .

Singled out and placed in isolation while symbols from other nationalities were allowed so if you were any other flag, it's okay, but if you were the British flag, you are marched out of your of your school room.

In Britain in isolation you could not say no more loudly. You are not allowed to be proud of your heritage. Like, I see why people are pushing back finally. Yeah, this is egregious. And you didn't, you didn't, you didn't know it was this bad, did you?

Simone Collins: No. That's crazy. That's, and to be arrested for just

Malcolm Collins: saying things like this, oh, oh, Simone.

We're not even getting to the multiple arrests for saying, for the simple misgendering and stuff like that when happened. What's so

Simone Collins: funny though, is like the way that this is pictured in. Narrative dystopias is if you say anything against the [00:10:00] government, you know, God forbid, no, no, no. It's literally just supporting your country.

Your country.

Malcolm Collins: Derates you. Well look at it this way. Okay. Suppose the UK was under occupation by a foreign power right now. Yeah. What would that foreign power, what symbol would it fear the most if it was under occupation? By a foreign power? Oh,

Simone Collins: fair. Yeah. Yeah. Like so, so France, when it was occupied. By the axis.

By

Malcolm Collins: the axis, if you had a French flag, you had flew a French

Simone Collins: flag. Yeah. You okay? You're immediately

Malcolm Collins: going to jail. Being

Simone Collins: detained. Being isolated. And this is why, the colonizers flag, the progress flag is flying everywhere. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: It is under occupation in every single word. It's,

Simone Collins: it's, oh my gosh.

Malcolm Collins: It's, oh, okay, keep going. Ooh, yeah. You're seeing this. I'm a popcorn. I'm like, is when you start to think of it as the context of, okay, certainly a government wouldn't punish people for flying its own flag. [00:11:00] So if the government is punished people for flying the British flag, what conceivable reason could it have to do that?

Oh, that's not who's in charge anymore. It is occupied.

Simone Collins: Oh my gosh. Wow. Um,

Malcolm Collins: In 2024, an army veteran residing in Preston, Lancaster was instructed by his housing associate to paint over the St. George's flag design that he had applied to his front door. That, that actually would look pretty cool. The, the white was the red cross on a front door.

You know, under that sounds awesome. I want our front door to be an American flag. Now, can we do that? Actually, I kinda like that idea. I'm, I'm here for it. Okay. We'll talk about it.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: That he had applied to his front door. The association deemed this an unauthorized modification of his property violating tenancy agreements that prohibited alterations without a, a formal approval.

So he was forced to remove it. In August, 2025, unidentified individuals painted large St. George's crosses on multiple roundabouts in [00:12:00] areas around Broms Grove Westchester, and parts of Birmingham. Authorities such as the West Mercy of Police classified these acts as criminal damage under the Criminal Damage Act of 1971.

And they evolved unauthorized alterations of public highways. Investigations were launched to identify those who are responsible with warnings issued that such markings could break the highways act and pose safety risks to motorists by distracting drivers. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Now, this same county that did this, right?

Well, first of all, let's talk about like the BBC attempting to cover this up. Yeah. So the BBC publishes an article about these titled roundabouts vandalized to look like St. George's Flags. Okay? Then they do another article. Rainbow Zebra Crossings appear in a Resort. So you know that this was also.

Not done with approval because they appear in a report. They

Simone Collins: appear. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Right. But they are celebrating it when it's their flag and it is oh. Somebody's putting random french flags and our not. Yeah. So

Simone Collins: one's like a little fairy put it there, and the other one's like vandalism horrible.

Malcolm Collins: And [00:13:00] remember the guy who got mad that people had put up random Palestinian flags all over his town.

So, this district, I think this was actually the same one that got mad at this guy. They went down and cut down, despite the Palestinian flags, remaining up all of the English flags and saying that they could be a threat to drivers.

Simone Collins: Oh, this is so outrageous. Okay. Okay. No, you see, how do the government workers who are forced to do this feel, I mean, they must be like, this is creepy.

Malcolm Collins: The UK is currently under fascist occupation. Apparently. We talk about the colonizer's flag, the the new pride flag. One of the things we always mention, and I, I just always have to mention this because people miss this, the gay flag.

Meant everyone under the rainbow, right? It was a striated. Like, if you look at the original people, like one meant like poetry, everyone like mysticism, you know, et cetera they didn't stand for genders or sexualities or anything like that. The new parts of the flag that vandalized and cover up a flag that [00:14:00] stood for inclusivity stand for specific groups being more worthy of attention than other groups being more worthy of rights than other groups, specifically trans individuals.

Brown and black Indi Bipoc individuals ACE individuals. And this is what we see within the colonizing group. So they're, they're dividing humans based on sexual orientation, based on their ethnic group and assigning special status like you being able to get other people sent to jail for misgendering you if you are trans.

Do you think that anyone has ever been sent to jail for accidentally misgendering a non-trans person? Absolutely not. This is something that only applies to this community, right? So it is, when we say that they're Nazis, I don't mean like they're acting. Like adjacent to Nazis or something like that.

I mean, they have a, literally set up an institution where human beings worst is divided based on their ethnicity or sexual profile. And then they have big rallies like that one [00:15:00] where they chant about killing the Jews. Right? Like they, they, they regularly, when I was in London last. I saw a, a group, giant group and I had to tell a group of Orthodox Jews, Hey guys, turn around shouting about killing Jews walking through the streets of Central London.

Oh my goodness. Nobody was shutting it down. You know, when we talk about the Christina Gay thing, when we're like, when they're like, this is the head of Harvard, and they're like, well, somebody said, kill the Jews. You know, would that be hate speech? Claine gay. Yeah, gay. And she's like, well, it depends on the context, right?

Like, and the context is it depends on if they are from one of the higher class ethnic groups, probably in her mind. Which is exactly the way the Nazis operated. Like this is just Nazi-ism again. But to continue here, in August, 2025, as part of responses to the operations, raise the colors campaign.

Local residents in cities like Tower Hamlets in East London and Birmingham attach hundreds of St. George's crosses and union Jacks flags to lampposts street signs and public infrastructure Tower Hamlets Council in Birmingham City Council mobilized maintenance teams to remove these flags. [00:16:00] Remember, they hadn't done this for the Palestinian flags, right?

Using. The, the council justified their removals on grounds of routine infrastructure, maintenance and safety concerns. But then why didn't they do this with the Palestinian flags?

Simone Collins: Right?

Malcolm Collins: You know, why didn't they do this with the, the pride flags that they're put up without public approval? Why is it, why is the BBC lauding this using public money that they're forcing people to pay?

God, I just can't imagine the indignity of being forced to pay for a propaganda arm of the government that wanted to shame my culture and my heritage for an occupying presence. You know, like if you had to pay the Nazis every day so that they could go on air and talk about how bad the French were and how aren't you glad that the Nazis are here now running everything?

Speaker 10: There are rather a lot of TV detector vans in this area tonight, new, more powerful vans. If you don't have a license, they'll know just what to look for you. [00:17:00] And when you are caught, you can now be fined up to 400 pounds.

Speaker 11: The new TV detector vans, they're in this area now.

Malcolm Collins: And when you went to class every day, you would go to a school or a college where they talked to you about how bad the French are. And that your ancestors were terrible, but fortunately the Nazis came here to free you. If, if you, but you're seeing this right? It's exactly like they're under occupation.

Simone Collins: It's really creepy. It's really creepy.

Malcolm Collins: Under UK's Road Vehicles Construction and use Regulations 1986 and related motoring laws, drivers risk fines, up to a thousand pounds, and three penalty points on their driver's license for attaching flags like St. George's cross to their vehicles. Oh my gosh.

What can be said to obstruct the driver's view or serially, fastened or poses a risk to safety hazard? [00:18:00] This issue was particularly highlighted during Euro 2024 football tournament where fans were advised to ensure flags did not flap loosely. Cover number plates are impaired visibility.

And people basically were pulled over. It appears that they were overly zealous and just. Suing people who had flags on their cars.

Simone Collins: Can you imagine this happening in the United States? Oh, in

Malcolm Collins: the US people put flags on their cars all the time. It's a

Simone Collins: revolution for real. In the United States at that point

Malcolm Collins: in May, 2025, British jigsaw puzzle artists, Mike Jupp, age 77.

Was asked by game company Gibson's games to remove St. George's flags from one of his puzzle designs, oh, as part of a diversity and inclusion drive jump. Famous for his I Love series depicting humorous and chaotic scenes of British Life. Claimed the request was an act of woke censorship, and it also included removing other elements.

He expressed outrage, arguing it suppressed national pride in his artwork for him. No, absolutely. This is about British life, right? You have an I back puzzle, [00:19:00] man. Emily Thornberry here tweeting to shame. A poor white neighborhood that had put up English flags in their, in their windows. You had news stations complaining that men had put up.

British flags near like Chinese and Turkish restaurants. They were just putting 'em up on all the polls, but they're like, of course you need to skip that area because they're, you know, Chinese and Turkish restaurants. 'cause these

Simone Collins: UK citizens would hate to see their national flag. Yeah, I know a lot of immigrants who are proud of America.

Right. In fact, well, immigrants like choose, they choose. I mean, it, it's more than someone who's born to a country. When you choose to go to a country. You're, I mean, like most of the people who we know who've won their citizenship are way more patriotic than the average person who was just born here.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, the ones who may have gotten in illegally might not be, but I, I actually think that this is a good metric for who you should let into your country. Are they the type of country who is proud of your country's flag hanging near their shop? Or are they the type of country who is disgusted [00:20:00] immigrant?

Are they

Simone Collins: the type of immigrant who is disgusted by.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. If they are the type of immigrant that's disgusted by your country's flag, it means they probably don't like your culture and they're not looking to acculturate. So you shouldn't, you know, there's no reason to bring them there. Right? Like, why, why are they there?

There's other countries. Yeah. If you don't

Simone Collins: like it, don't stay.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, there's other countries they can go to. Yes. And if you're like, yeah, but those other countries are kind of, you know, not awesome places to live, where people who with their attitudes are in the majority, it's like, well then what does that mean?

Yeah. What are you so proud of then? No, no, no, no. It's not. What are you so proud of? It's. Once people of their attitude become the majority of the country, that country becomes not a great place to live. What does it mean about bringing in people with that attitude, right? Like, you probably don't wanna do it.

Right. You know, this is, this is, and I note here, this isn't me making some jab at, you know, just like. Muslims, for example, this is what I always say to like American Catholics who wanna make like a Catholic caliphate in the United States. I go look at Catholic majority countries, [00:21:00] they suck. Like they've got tons of corruption, they way higher rates of poverty, you know, just terrible places to live, lower, lower birth rates often.

Why would you want that? Why would you want that for yourself? Right. And, and I, I, so, so I'm not just taking d digs at like, but I will say, you know, I, I, I, I can, look at this from the perspective, I'm, I'm, there are certain Muslim populations that even when they become the majority within Muslim majority countries, they make their areas much less and nice to live in.

You know, we pointed out in a, in another video on Pakistani's religious court saying that it was Islamophobic to make it so that, to raise the, the minimum age of consent from from nine. Right? Or it might have been 14 at that time. But young no, it might been 12. It was either either nine or 12.

And they and people, you know, obviously in the west they don't talk about this, but this is a mainstream conservative Muslim position, right. Like you saying they're not allowed to have this position. Is you saying that their culture is [00:22:00] inferior to your culture? And you're like, well, of course I believe that.

And it's like, well. They're moving to your country and they hate your ways. Okay. That means that they want to impose their ways, which may include some of their cultural traditions that their religious courts are ruling on. Mm-hmm. Which can lead to you know, incidents like, and this is one of these things where people are like, how, how bad is like what the government is doing in terms of importing people?

Obviously there was a famous case of, people being imported from Gaza, literally. Who jumped British tax paying citizens in the NHS you know, for potentially lifesaving procedures for the British citizens that had been waiting four years. I. And then in terms of the immigration stuff, you know what's going on in the UK right now?

They have rented out on taxpayer dimes over 200 hotels at over 111,000 asylum claims. I've heard about

Simone Collins: these migrant hotels. What's,

Malcolm Collins: yeah. Are they actual

Simone Collins: hotels like kind of in New York for homeless people?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Some [00:23:00] of them are like nice hotels. Yeah. And they've spent billions of dollars on this.

My gosh. 8.3 million per day is what they're spending on doing this.

Simone Collins: Whoa. Oh yeah. I mean.

That as, as UK citizens are struggling to make ends meet is,

Malcolm Collins: but they're taking money from UK and, and UK citizens. Talk about how the, the, you know, these people are getting closing stipends, they're getting food stipends. They're getting, oh, wow. Why would you, as I say, you cannot have. Porous borders and general social services.

Absolutely. You need to pick one on the others. Yeah. Either you have tight borders and low social services, or tons of social services and, and loose borders. They're at the very least own expensive, no,

Simone Collins: no. Tons of social services and extremely tight borders or. Or the

Malcolm Collins: vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. And, and the, the reason is obvious, if you have both at the same time, or at the very very least, you shouldn't extend any social services to first generation immigrants because if you have both at the first time, that means you disproportionately attract immigrants that want to live off of those social services.

Of

Simone Collins: course, obviously.

Malcolm Collins: [00:24:00] And, and eventually you get sort of an osmosis where the immigrants who wanna come to your country and economically contribute don't come. And the ones that wanna mooch off of you do come. Mm-hmm. And then you get a, a, a nightmarish country with tons of knife crime and stuff like that, like you have in the uk.

Yeah. You're setting

Simone Collins: yourself up for failure. It's not good.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So to talk about some of the things that have happened here, ha. Haba Kati, a 41-year-old Ethiopian asylum seeker, staying at one of these hotels that taxpayers were paying for sexually assaulted and a 14-year-old girl.

Simone Collins (2): Oh my God.

Malcolm Collins: And then, through, through attempting to force to kiss her, and then a bunch of immigrant and, and es came out and protested the vehicles that were attempting to take him away. Even, even to just go to court over this, they didn't even want him to have to go to court over this. You know, this is why nobody was, was you can watch our grooming gang video, why nothing was done on the grooming gangs when you know that you're gonna be sworn by protestors because somebody of us, some ethnicities are just supposed to live off of the other ethnicities.

You know, it's, it, it is, it is just, [00:25:00] and right that some ethnicities pay for the existence of other ethnicities. Oh my God. And that they shouldn't face repercussions for crimes, you know, in the same way that if you go to like Antebellum himself, oh, well, you know, a white guy, grapes, a black girl, whatever.

Right? Like, that's normal. You know, he should be allowed to do that, but not the other way around. We, we are seeing a recreation of this within the occupied UK right now. In Newton Wilshire there were claims of a 12-year-old boy being great involving asylum sea goers. A boy? No girl. Oh. Was this the same people?

Oh, no. Different people. Mohad, mdu and Ham. Kabir reform UK Council leader George French, accused the police of a coverup regarding their immigration status. Mm-hmm. Broader claims in the area. 40% of sexual assaults in London last year came from foreign nationals. Not even like second generation immigrants or something.

Oh. Attacked a ton for saying that they had medieval views, but they, they, I mean, if this is what's happening, [00:26:00] they do. Right. I mean. Yeah. But anyway, what's, what's interesting about the 2.28, if you just wanna talk about like the, the pure evil involved in what's going on with these hotels. A lot of the money that's going to these hotels is being directly redirected from foreign aid that's supposed to go to Africa.

Where it would make a much bigger difference. It's like no pepfar, no no helping children. Yeah. They're mad at us for shutting down pepfar and meanwhile they're spending. The 2.2 billion of it specifically was redirected from their foreign aid program.

Simone Collins: Gosh, that's horrible.

Malcolm Collins: So to talk about some other crazy stuff Kate Scott, low 2019.

A mother was arrested at her home in Hartfield, in front of her children and detained for seven hours after allegedly misgendering transgender activists Sophia Hayden on Twitter by calling her a man. Along with comment comments deemed harassing. She was charged with harassment and malicious communications.

Simone Collins: Wow, malicious. It's like a whole new level of Karen. Karen, like when the government [00:27:00] becomes Karen and can arrest you.

Malcolm Collins: Well, it's

Simone Collins: terrifying.

Malcolm Collins: I mean, it's not Karen. It is, it is worse than that. You know, you have a, a group that is deemed a political upper class and they are what we can only describe of as occupiers.

Yeah, they fly a flag that stands for a, a a A vandalization of inclusivity. Yeah. The message

Simone Collins: here really isn't UK is about to have a revolution. 'cause it it isn't, it is. The UK is occupied now. The UK is occupied. This is an occupied country.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. She was convicted in 2020 but it was overturned in 2021.

A Christian Street preacher in LE was arrested under the Sedition four A of the Public Order Act 1984, after misgendering a transgender woman in a public sermon referring to her as a man in a dress and using male pronouns. He was detained for 14 hours and also reported to the Prevent counter-Terrorism Program by the police.

Gosh, this is the resources. Why isn't he allowed to believe what Christians believe? Right? Why [00:28:00] isn't he allowed to say what Christians believe? Because it hurts somebody else's. One of the ruling class feelings. They can, they can preach to him. If a trans person was on the street preaching, they'd be allowed to preach, and somebody's on the street preaching about how you should be allowed to be gay and proud and everything like that.

They'd be allowed to preach. But somebody of trying to preach Christian beliefs, they're not allowed to do that. Catherine Farrow, a Catholic journalist, was investigated by Surrey Police for tweets misgendering the child of transgender activist Suzy t Green. After a debate under potential malicious communication laws a police sought taped interview, but did not arrest her.

A teacher in Oxford Shere, a mass teacher, was accused of misgendering a transgender pupil by referring to use preferred pronouns and saying, well done girls. To a group, including the student police, informed the school it constituted a hate crime under the Equality Act of 2010.

Simone Collins: Wow. People from just like 30 years ago would think we're completely insane that we've lost our minds.

Well,

Malcolm Collins: it makes [00:29:00] sense when you, when you recontextualize, that this is a ruling cast that is acting like a ruling cast. Mm-hmm. And that they have occupied our countries. And that when you go to a school system and it tells you to not be proud of the founding fathers of a country, to not be proud of that country's ancestors.

And this school system is supposedly working for that country's government. The truth is laid bare. A new group is ruling your country.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: I'm gonna skip some of the

Simone Collins: egregious examples.

Malcolm Collins: Well, so there's some other well, okay, well we can go into this a bit. The Communications Act of 2003 criminalizes, sending messages via public networks that are gross, quote unquote, grossly offensive.

Simone Collins: What counts as a public network? Like Facebook or X

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Or indecent, obscene or menacing penalty up to six months in prison. There was six months

Simone Collins (2): in prison.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Okay. Really no

Simone Collins (2): freedom of speech. That is

Malcolm Collins: crazy. And they, they, by the way, recently there was the case of them not convicting the PDA files who were [00:30:00] caught with actual CP of real children who were put through horrible things.

But they, they did send a guy to jail for right-wing memes. So, all Chambers 2010 was initially convicted and fined after a tweet jokingly threatening to blow up Robinhood airport due to flight delays. Which is funny because it wasn't even political. It was due to flight delays but it was overturned after outcry and 2012 individuals were prosecuted.

For racially motivated tweets directed at football or Stan Cullimore resulting in convictions for grossly offensive communications. More recently during the 2024 riots, numerous arrests and convictions occurred under this session, including a man sentenced to three years for posting on Facebook to initiate racial hatred or violence and others for sharing inflammatory means or false information about immigrants.

Where, where they choose what's, what's false and what's not. There's been 999 reports of prosecutions under this. Wow. The two for sending false [00:31:00] messages requires and remember, this is the type of thing where you could have gone to jail for for if, if this happened in the us Remember when they pretended like the hunter Biden scam, was this not real like the then?

Yeah. Oh yeah. And they, they reached out to all of these websites and they had them take down all of this stuff. You likely would've been sent to jail if this had been in the us if you had posted about that for posting misinformation or during COVID, you know, if you post something like, I don't think that this is accurate.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I dunno how much masks we're actually, so we, we should

Simone Collins: feel so lucky that like all we got was shadow banned and our accounts closed and stuff. I mean like, at least we didn't go to jail for six months.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Then there's the Online Safety Act of 2023 requires. Tech platforms to remove, quote unquote harmful content, including misinformation or content causing quote unquote psychological harm.

IE anything that people find unpleasant to see? Oh, obviously not all people, not Christians or Jews, or, no. Well,

Simone Collins: their opinions don't matter, do they? Their opinions

Malcolm Collins: don't matter. Which is so funny that it's immediately true when I'm like, oh, do, do Christians and Jews count that? And they're like, no, of course they [00:32:00] don't count psychological harm.

What are you talking about? If something was offensive to them, whatever British people, you know, like burning British flags and stuff, they wouldn't care about that. They, they can find companies up to 10% of global revenue if they, if they do this mandates age verification and weakness of end and decryption.

So it's a relatively new law. But in the 2024, the Rights Act was a invoked to pressure social media to delete posts that quote unquote spread violence or spread of misinformation. I mean, we know what that means. The Public Order Act 1986 prohibits threatening, abusive, or ins insinuating words, behavior causing harassment, alarm distress, also bans, stirring up hatred on grounds of race, religion, or sexual orientation.

Of course this does not apply to Christians or straight people which you will commonly see online is kill straight men. You know, this is a common thing. You, and I'm sure you can find dozens of uk feminists and stuff like that saying, you know, white male tears and stuff like that. This was a common thing.

Of [00:33:00] course, nobody ever has to deal with this because again, we have a, a, a, a sexual racial and ethnic hierarchy that they have set up with, of course, Jews at the bottom and deserving of eradication before the 2013 amendment removing, insulting Section five, A teenager was arrested in 2008 for holding a sign, calling Scientology a cult in a protest.

Simone Collins: This has nothing to do with the, oh my

Malcolm Collins: gosh,

Simone Collins: feelings. You couldn't, you're just doing work for Scientologists on, on behalf of the government in the uk.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And a man from Lutton was convicted under Section five for disorderly behavior involving shouting offensive remarks in public.

Simone Collins: Isn't that like a UK pastime?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Where things come to my overhead has been fined multiple times for sermons. Quoting the Bible on homosexuality. People said that caused distress. Quoting the Bible. Don't the Bible? No, no, no, but I again, why? Why isn't it a bad to. [00:34:00] Why isn't that offensive to Christians that you're doing this, right?

Like that causes psychological harm. And then they got the Malicious Communications Act of 1988. So you see they've been doing this for a while. Criminalizes sending electronic communications to cause distress or anxiety. This makes going to the UK so Scary Woman jailed in 2018 for posting rapidly ricks on Instagram that referenced violence interpreted as causing distress.

Oh gosh. Okay, so, so you see what I mean? The UK is a police state now. What does it take,

Simone Collins: I mean, so you are arguing there's no revolution, there's not gonna be a revolution. Like what, what, what would it take to change this? It's very

Malcolm Collins: hard to have a revolution in a country like the uk. In the US it's fairly easy and I'm gonna explain the difference.

Okay. In the US all we need for a political revolution is for one party to deny the election results of another party and actually do something about it. So far. Trump will say, I don't believe the election results, but he'll still vacate the office. Right? So far no one has just been like, I am [00:35:00] not vacating this, this is not, you guys actually cheated this time.

And I think there's enough you know, stuff out there and motivation from both parties. To be honest here, because Republicans were caught cheating in some of the elections in the last election cycle to actually attempt to cheat and also not acknowledge that they were caught or that when they were caught that it was enough to sway the election is probably what would happen.

So let's go over what this would look like. One side, verifiably does cheat. We all see that they cheat. Everybody knows that they cheated. And again, republicans literally have convictions on the record for doing this. I am saying this to Google ai, so, you know, I'm not talking about anything right wing here, right?

Of course here I'm talking about Sally Jane, the, , 64-year-old postal worker who stole like a dozen ballots or something like that. Again, , no evidence, especially on YouTube that, , Democrats have ever, , in any way, engaged in anything silly with [00:36:00] elections.

Malcolm Collins: You, you're not gonna make this ineligible. I'm talking about Republicans here. Republicans because you can't, again, say whatever you want to say on platforms like this as, as my audience knows. What , so, I think this was in South Carolina or something, one of the districts. So we have.

Proof this happens in a few districts or something like that. And one side says. Well, that wasn't enough to swing the election in our favor and we still won. And then the other side says, no, that was enough to swing this in your favor. We are not leaving the White House. That's enough, I think, to get some of, if not all, of the military on the side of the person who decides to stay in the White House because it's so obviously unfair.

And then the other side would likely resort to, some form of violence. And then you have a civil war, right? That would likely be shut down pretty quickly and decide that stays in power may decide to say, well, we can't hold elections for a while due [00:37:00] to civil unrest or something like that.

And then the elections get delayed. And they get delayed again, and then it's okay, everybody knows what this is at this point, right? That is. I expect there is a very high probability of that happening within our lifetimes. Really well, because we already see both sides and every election cycle saying the election was raped.

That's true. So

Simone Collins: you just think it's gonna escalate from there?

Malcolm Collins: It is escalating every cycle, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The, the one of the core reasons I think it didn't happen in this election cycle is because the blowout for Trump was so large.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Mm. Okay. So when it gets closer, but they still

Malcolm Collins: try to, if you go on blue Twitter or anything like that, or like

Simone Collins: blue sky,

Malcolm Collins: blue sky, it is now normative that the election was rigged.

This is now the normative opinion on their side. Was in, was in progressive groups. And, and if you say this, people won't jump down your throat. People won't be like, oh, you're acting just like we accused them of acting in the last election. Everyone is like, oh, of course. It the, [00:38:00] the, the thing though is something like Elon did it and I'm like, E okay, Elon did it, but Elon's in a beef with Trump now and is like really quite mean to him.

If he had no on him, I'm pretty sure he would've released it at this point. Because, you know, this ends up hurting his companies. And honestly, the way you know Elon didn't do it is even if you're like, okay, well maybe Elon and Trump are secretly. Like he doesn't still co polluting something on Trump.

Trump would've been fastidious about ensuring Elon got all of the solar credits that he needed and the big, beautiful bill to be happy. Oh, yeah. If Elon had that level of, of dirt Yeah. Dirt on

Simone Collins: him.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. No, Trump isn't an effing idiot. He, he's not going to do that. Right. So just logically, no, Elon didn't have any information of something like that.

Mm-hmm. But this is a normative opinion within leftist communities when I listen to their

Simone Collins: content. Okay. So what would need to happen in the uk? 'cause that's not how elections work there different. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Because in the UK there, there's not as much vagueness in who's won an election. Right? Like the Prime Minister is chosen [00:39:00] by the MPS and the, and the House of Lords.

I think that's say and, and, and that's an easy vote. And you can just go check with everyone who did you vote for? Right. You know? So it's way harder. To get a situation of ambiguity like you have in the United States which means that you know, you're way less likely to have somebody be like, I just disagreed that I lost.

Right. And have the military go along with that. Secondarily, it's very unlikely because the types of people who are chosen to be Prime Minister are chosen because they're chosen by the mps, they're chosen by what is already an elite political class that doesn't really care that much about the average UK citizen.

Mm. Less accountability. Yeah, enforcing the existing aristocratic authority. And, and that's the way they see it in the UK as well. Mm. And so they sort of see themselves at the top of this woke totem pole as the aristocratic authority, even the conservatives. I mean, that's where you got this new party in the uk the Nigel Farage party which, you know, did very well and may, may do well in the future.

We'll see. But it's because a conservative party basically stopped being a conservative party. And so. [00:40:00] You could get a woke fascist revolution in the uk. It'd be very hard to, from a governmental perspective, get a right wing. The one way this could happen in the uk, and if you have their ear, you let me know on this one.

Okay? People, you, you, you, you whisper things. Is the royal family. The royal family could create a viable revolution in the uk. Yeah.

Simone Collins: Technically. Yeah. Yeah. They technically

Malcolm Collins: on paper, have the power, and this is all you need is to come out with the paper and just be like, we do not believe that the Parliament is representative of the people of the UK anymore.

You know, you, you, you, you cite things like these flag instances. You cite things like people being arrested for, for just saying their religious beliefs. Yeah. In a country that is. Sly a a Christian country, you know, it's under the Anglican church. Yeah. I don't know if it's technically still, but the Anglican Church is still under the monarchy is still the head of that.

Yeah. You know, they can say, you know, as, as my duty was in this role and the role is, is in the Church of England, somebody is arrested for reading the Bible. There've been, you know, instances of [00:41:00] arrested for, like, praying to close to somebody's house or, you know, like Yeah. I mean, really

Simone Collins: King Charles is being derelict in his duty.

In

Malcolm Collins: and, and, and, and the public. I think in the large part would go along with you. Just be like, look, I'm not here to, at this point. Yeah. Right wing extremist thing. I wanna do this. Well, I just feel like there's

Simone Collins: been such a long period of just false starts and discontent with leadership in the uk.

Malcolm Collins: Would you, you come out as you go.

I want to do the stuff that everybody wants to do. Shut down the B, B, C, right? Like the B, B, C. Clearly you don't wanna be paying these taxes. This money would better be going to poor people at, at most, right? Like we, or just privatize

Simone Collins: it. Just privatize the B, BC. And then just say like, hard reset. Anyone who's in an office now doesn't get to serve again.

Let's just do elections again. Do over. Clean slate.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Or yeah, clean slate. Maybe change the voting system. And, and or, or just go back to a monarchy. Be like, look, this No, this is what I would say. [00:42:00] Okay. But I was in one of their positions. Yeah. I know. I

Simone Collins: feel like actually a lot of the anti monarchy people might change their mind if they felt like they were getting their money's worth.

Like if the monarchy was actually monarchy.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I, I, I go out and say this, I'm gonna be like, guys, give me 10 years. Okay. Just 10 years. 10 years especially

Simone Collins: if it was if Prince William took place as king.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I, I'm not gonna do anything crazy. Like I'm not, I'm not here to restructure society. I'm not here to, I want a British society that is more efficient, that doesn't waste your money, that doesn't take.

Tax dollars that should be going to our poor, that should be going to the NHS. Mm-hmm. And paying for luxury hotels for migrants. Right. Like, we, we need to be realistic about where we are as a country. Right. We're not being realistic about this anymore and I want to prioritize my citizens. And I think that, that you get a bunch of protests, but at the end of the day, I think enough of Britain would be like, let's just give it a [00:43:00] shot and be like, and, and seriously be like.

I am open at the end of this, I'm gonna host a public sentiment polling. Mm-hmm. Okay. If you guys found that your lives got worse under, under this, you let me know and I will go back to the old system, right, and be like, I am just as uncertain about whether this will work as you guys are. But I think we can all see that the way things are right now isn't working.

And you can appeal and you, and when you do it, you appeal to some left wing sentiment, some right wing sentiments. You know, you, you're like some, you know, like the corporations are blah, blah, lying. You know, they're putting the poisons in your food. The, the environmental regulations are clearly not being held up in these regions.

You know. And, and you could even be like, look, and if certain groups feel that they are threatened when interacting with. Normal Christians as they will, right? Like normal Christians are gonna have a problem with some communities, [00:44:00] just as normal Muslims are gonna have a problem with some communities, right?

We, we need to build and people can be like, oh, no ghettos, right? But we need to, to, to zone parts of the country specifically for those groups. It feel they can't be around other religious organizations when they are acting normally. And I think that they, that like, if you can't. Be around a Christian reading the Bible or you can't be around a, a Muslim reading, you know, from, from their text.

That's a major problem. Right? Yeah. And I think the u the people in the UK would, would go for this. A point, some Indian or Sikh guy is like the, your go-to guy who's actually running the management of the country go, go very colonialist like that. People would be like, well, it is a brown person running things who has a funny religion, so we know it's not a, you know, a Christian authoritarian.

So I, I think that's the direction I'd go, but I don't know if any of the monarchy has a spine anymore. You know, and this is the problem.

Simone Collins: I mean, who knows? I mean, yeah, I think maybe if much younger [00:45:00] Prince Charles might've gone for something like this, but now no. It could be that Prince William has it as in him.

That would be super cool.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I think monarchy going in this direction could be a big thing, but if you try to just like revolt on the streets, they're just gonna call out the military and kill you. It's not gonna happen. Yeah.

Simone Collins: Wow.

Malcolm Collins: And I mean, the military will begin to have breakdowns after a while, but even if the military had a breakdown, suppose you're winning.

Right. Like, suppose the revolution is winning. You're like, actually, we really hate being treated as second class citizens in our own country. Mm-hmm. We really hate the systemic discrimination that you guys have implemented. I don't wanna live under this anymore. And you start a revolution and you start winning against the British military.

Like it wouldn't happen. But suppose you do. What is every other country in Europe going to do? They're gonna send their militaries. Oh. Because they know, I don't know,

Simone Collins: after Brexit, I feel like they're kinda like, we washed our hands. You deserve this. Oh no, not at

Malcolm Collins: all. Not at all. If I'm France or I'm Germany and I am seeing a sane revolution in the [00:46:00] uk and I'm one of those countries governments, I'm quake in my effing boots because if it's successful in the uk next it happens here.

So they'd say we cannot allow a mob to overthrow an elected democracy, is what they're going to say. And they'd call it a right wing fascist, you know, whatever type of group it really is. That's what they would say. And then they'd use that to bring in their own jets and drones and tanks and everything like that.

And the next thing you know, you'd be under a European occupation. Back to the old system. Wow. That's why I always just suggest for my UK friends, get out. They've already won. You're already under occupation. Yeah. Unless you have like

Simone Collins: the ear of Prince William and maybe King Charles get out.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Unless the monarchy reach their duty and saves their country,

Simone Collins: you have forever changed the way. Now that I am looking at today's United Kingdom, this is an occupied country. Just like France occupied France,

Malcolm Collins: you, when you were talking to me about [00:47:00] this this morning, you're like, well, you know, you wouldn't get a revolution there 'cause revolutions don't happen in wealthy countries.

And I was like, actually, statistically speaking, what revolutions more often happen in wealthy countries? I pointed out that if you look at the when the United States Revolution happened, we had an average income that was higher than any of the British colonies, including Britain itself.

If you look at when the Civil War started the South had like, income rates that were some of the highest in the world, right? Like, I mean, but look

Simone Collins: at the UK now. No, they're. Right. I guess unless you're a migrant getting your clothing stipend and your food stipend and you're hotel Yeah. They bo so whatever, you know, there's huge hiring freezes in the uk.

People aren't getting jobs and, and still like the, they're starting wages are like half that if, if that of what you would typically get as a college grad. In the United States. Yeah. If you're Oxbridge educated. Oh my gosh. So yeah. Anyway, maybe you can't argue so. Well, I mean, obviously [00:48:00] yes, relatively speaking, they're an absolute country.

But this is, yeah, this is enlightening. Okay, I'm gonna go, we've guessed tonight, so

Malcolm Collins: I can see why they're doing it. Have a great day, Simon. And love you guys like, and subscribe, all that nonsense. Check us out on Patreon. Oh yeah. Episodes please. And, got episodes have been doing well recently. I don't know if we're like doing worse at them, but I guess we'll see.

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Malcolm Collins: Love you Simone.

Simone Collins: Love you Malcolm. All right. Off I go to get tourists

Malcolm Collins: in. Alright. And I'll go down in a bit. Just let me know when they get here and I'll come down a bit after.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Like no rush. And I'll, I'll text you when they get here.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: Oh, I learned that pharmaceuticals in the US cannot be named anything like that. That implies a cure where there isn't. So, you know, Rogan, the hair product that's fermented experiencing hair loss, [00:49:00] it's called regain in the rest of the world. But we can't say that in the US 'cause it can't guarantee that you will regain your hair.

So it is called Rogan instead.

Malcolm Collins: That is interesting. I didn't know that.

Simone Collins: Isn't that funny? Yeah. And it's really hard to name pharmaceutical products because the FDA has to approve it. One of the things that's really important also, and this makes a lot of sense to me, I mean, in addition to like no false promises or anything, that the products have to be significantly different in name, because if a pharmacist on the phone hears the wrong drug name and then prescribes you the wrong thing, you could die.

You know, interesting, like, yeah, 500 milligrams of like one thing versus the other could mean the difference between life and death.

Malcolm Collins: Like a vri versus vitriol.

Simone Collins: Yeah. So they have to be really, really careful about how they go about doing that. But now it's becoming just, it is so much harder to name pharmaceuticals, because of course [00:50:00] all the good names have been.

Selected and now they're much harder to pronounce. And so we're getting some really wild names, but who knew? Who knew?

Malcolm Collins: Alright, well, yeah, I'll get started here.

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