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Ultrahuman and Kuku FM have broken out


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You could, in many ways, picture India’s tech businesses venturing into the global stage in waves. First, there were the services companies. Your Wipros and Infosys and the like. Then, startups such as Zomato, Oyo, and Ola took their shot. The third wave was headlined by SaaS companies like Zoho and Freshworks. 

What does the fourth wave look like? 

What does the future hold for companies making the jump? 

This week’s episode of Two by Two was our attempt to answer some of those questions. Our guests for the podcast ended up adding quite a bit more. 

Mohit Kumar is founder and CEO of Ultrahuman, best known for its smart rings which compete with the likes of Oura and Samsung, but also offering a wide range of other devices and products for health-conscious buyers.

Lal Chand Bisu is the co-founder and CEO of Kuku FM, a mobile-first premium audio platform hosting content in multiple Indian languages.

Two very different companies, with one bold bet in common: they chose to take their products global. 

Welcome to episode 34 of Two by Two.

Book your tickets for The Ken’s first subscriber event – https://the-ken.com/event/beyond-the-first-order/

Additional reading:

Kuku FM chooses not to be the hero in its own story

Pocket FM had 10 million listeners in India. Yet it hit pay dirt elsewhere

This episode of Two by Two was produced by Hari Krishna. Rajiv CN, our resident sound engineer, mixed and mastered this episode.

If you liked this episode of Two by Two, please share it with your friends and family who would be interested in listening to the episode. And if you have more thoughts on the discussion, we’d love to hear your arguments as well. You can write to us at [email protected].


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