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All lives mattered is well-intentioned, but aspirational. Native, female, brown, black, immigrant, incarcerated, and gay lives at present do not equally matter according to our systems. And when we think of Jesus, didn't he all over Galilee matter people? Do his words and example continue to save us from the status quo? Love like Jesus is something we say, but do we mean it?

In this episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation about patriotism, why people are offended by Black Lives Matter, the deferred maintenance of the church in this work, and what allyship means moving forward. For responses to these questions and more, listen in.

Before listening, read For Faith. 

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