Julian Council joins Mike Hardison and Ross Martin to answer a simple question: what if Mack Brown and UNC football win out and finish 8-4? This podcast dives into big picture program questions, recruiting, NIL, and the future of Carolina football. It closes with 10 minutes on UNC basketball ahead of four games in Hawaii.

(00:46) - UNC Charlotte Fires Biff Poggi

(02:11) - Mack Brown's Future

(08:42) - UNC Football Recruiting

(14:08) - Potential Outcomes of NC State Game

(23:50) - UNC Win vs Wake Forest Reactions

(30:04) - UNC 2025 QB Outlook

(31:53) - UNC Basketball: Win vs American, Hawaii Preview