Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and tips for the MSP and IT Professional)

Join Uncle Marv and Brook Lee as they swap stories from the road, sharing the secrets to building authentic vendor relationships and the value of thinking outside the box. From event etiquette to real-world onboarding challenges, they share stories and strategies that will help you spot the best fit for your business. Plus, get ready for a world tour of food, travel, and unforgettable networking moments—because in the IT world, sometimes the best connections are made over a hot dog on a curb at 2 a.m.

Why Listen:

• Learn how to choose vendors who “get” MSPs
• Discover event networking and vendor etiquette tips
• Hear behind-the-scenes stories from PAX 8 Beyond
• Get inspired by Liongard’s innovative approach
• Enjoy travel and foodie adventures from the road

Companies, Products & Books Mentioned

• Liongard – https://liongard.com
• PAX 8 – https://pax8.com
• Bao Brewhouse (Denver, CO) – https://baobrewhouse.com 
• Starbucks Reserve (Chicago, IL) – https://starbucksreserve.com

Brooke Lee is a key leader at Liongard, a company known for its innovative approach to IT automation and its strong focus on MSP experience. With a background in MSP operations and a passion for authentic partnerships, Brooke brings real-world insights and a refreshing honesty to every conversation. She’s also a travel and food enthusiast, always on the lookout for the next great meal or memorable adventure.

• Website: https://liongard.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookatliongard/

=== SPONSORS

• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

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Ever feel like your MSP is drowning in data but starved for context? Jeffrey Newton, co-founder of CYFT, shares how his AI-driven platform is giving MSPs real-time situational awareness—automating documentation, enriching tickets, and ensuring techs have the right info before they even pick up a call. Listen to why “best practice” may not always be in your best interest and how CYFT is changing the game for MSPs who want to break free from the industry’s echo chamber.

Why Listen:

• Hear how CYFT automates documentation and ticket enrichment
• Learn why “best practice” may not always serve your MSP
• Get actionable insights for MSP efficiency and growth
• Discover how real-time context can transform your tech team’s workflow

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned

• CYFT – https://cyft.ai
• IT Glue – https://www.itglue.com
• Hudu– https://hudu.com/
• MSP Insider (Podcast) – https://open.spotify.com/show/4r2LUeKoShqAwwpytAVpYO

=== SPONSORS

• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

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If you’ve ever dreamed of building your own home lab or wondered how to get started with Synology, Unraid, or TrueNAS, this episode is for you. Uncle Marv and Mike Wieger break down the pros and cons of each platform, explain the magic of Docker and containerization, and share practical tips for home automation and security. Get inspired to tinker, break, and learn—just like the pros do!

Why Listen:

• Learn how to set up a powerful home lab on a budget
• Discover the best NAS solutions for your needs
• Understand Docker and containerization in plain English
• Get tips for home automation and security
• Hear real-world consulting stories from a tech-savvy attorney

Guest Bio: Mike Wieger is a former attorney and current tech enthusiast who has built a robust home lab featuring Synology, Unraid, and TrueNAS servers. He is passionate about open-source software, home automation, and sharing his knowledge with others. Mike has consulted for small businesses and friends, helping them set up secure, efficient IT solutions.

Fiber Wars, Fast Networks, and Smarter Health Tech with Mike Wieger (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fiber-wars-fast-networks-and-smarter-health-tech-with/id457300409?i=1000712868122

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned:

• Synology: https://www.synology.com/
• Unraid: https://unraid.net/
• TrueNAS: https://www.truenas.com/
• Proxmox: https://www.proxmox.com/
• Home Assistant: https://www.home-assistant.io/
• Jellyfin: https://jellyfin.org/
• Frigate: https://frigate.video/
• Ubiquiti (Unifi):https://www.ui.com/
• PFSense: https://www.pfsense.org/
• Docker: https://www.docker.com/
• Podman: https://podman.io/
• Oracle Cloud (VPS):https://www.oracle.com/cloud/
• QNAP: https://www.qnap.com/
• Nextcloud: https://nextcloud.com/
• Plex: https://www.plex.tv/

=== SPONSORS

• Premier Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/
• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid
• Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready

=== MUSIC LICENSE CERTIFICATE

• Licensee: Marvin Bee
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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

What if you could manage hundreds of Intune tenants without ever repeating the same task? Colin Britton shares how Devicie’s runbooks and automation tools make it possible, while also providing deep insights into endpoint health and security. Learn about their new Reporting Connector for Edge for Business and how it brings browser security into focus for modern IT environments. 

Why Listen:

• Find out how Devicie makes Intune management scalable and secure
• Learn about the latest automation and reporting features
• Hear real-world examples of MSP and IT collaboration
• Get expert advice on managing complex Microsoft environments
• Discover the future of agentic IT and automation

Colin Britton is a seasoned leader in the MSP space with over a dozen years of experience, currently driving Devicie’s expansion into the US market. 

• Devicie Website: https://devicie.com
• Colin Britton LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinbritton/

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned

• Devicie: https://devicie.com
• Microsoft Intune: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/business/endpoint-management/microsoft-intune
• Microsoft 365: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365
• Edge for Business: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business
• Defender for Endpoint: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/business/endpoint-security/microsoft-defender-endpoint
• Essential 8 (Australian Security Framework): https://www.cyber.gov.au/resources-business-and-government/essential-cyber-security/essential-eight

=== SPONSORS

• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

=== MUSIC LICENSE CERTIFICATE

• Licensee: Marvin Bee
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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

Eric Torres joins Uncle Marv to discuss the power of community, peer groups, and collaboration in the MSP industry. Eric shares his personal journey, the importance of vendor partnerships, and how PAX 8 is helping MSPs transition to MSP 3.0—where AI and intelligence drive business success.

Eric shares his journey from Milwaukee to Melbourne, his passion for travel, and the importance of professional friendships in the IT channel. The conversation dives into the power of peer groups, the value of vendor collaborations, and how PAX 8 is helping MSPs navigate the transition to MSP 3.0—where AI and intelligence are at the forefront. Eric also highlights the importance of ongoing education, the resources available to PAX 8 partners, and the exciting announcements coming out of Beyond 2025.

Why Listen:

• Learn how to build and leverage MSP peer groups for accelerated growth.
• Discover the power of vendor collaboration and a vendor-agnostic mindset.
• Get insider access to the latest PAX 8 announcements and resources.
• Understand the transition from MSP 2.0 to MSP 3.0 and the role of AI.
• Hear real-world stories and lessons from a decade in the IT channel.
• Gain practical tips for building strong professional relationships and community.
• Find out how ongoing education and training are helping MSPs succeed.

Guest: 

Eric Torres is the Vice President of Channel and Community Engagement at PAX 8, where he leads efforts to grow the partner community and drive engagement across the MSP ecosystem. With a background spanning multiple industry-leading companies, Eric is a respected leader and advocate for peer groups, vendor collaboration, and continuous learning in the IT channel.

• Website: PAX 8
• LinkedIn: Eric Torres on LinkedIn

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned: 

• PAX 8 – https://www.pax8.com
• ConnectWise – https://www.connectwise.com
• OpenText – https://www.opentext.com
• Microsoft – https://www.microsoft.com
• ScalePad – https://www.scalepad.com
• PAX 8 Marketplace– https://www.pax8.com/marketplace
• PAX 8 Academy – https://www.pax8.com/academy

=== SPONSORS

• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

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What does it take to lead product in a company that’s always pushing boundaries? Libby McIlhany shares her journey from software engineer to Chief Product Officer at PAX 8, revealing how she and her team are shaping the future of the IT marketplace. From the dot-com crash to the AI revolution, this episode is a masterclass in tech leadership.

Why Listen:

• Gain perspective on the evolution of the IT channel
• Hear how PAX 8 is innovating with public storefronts and integrations
• Learn about the role of UX research in building world-class products
• Get inspired by stories of resilience and adaptability in tech
• Understand how to make the most of feedback and iteration

Guest:

Libby McIlhany is the Chief Product Officer at PAX 8, where she leads product strategy and innovation for one of the fastest-growing companies in the IT channel. 

• Website: https://www.pax8.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethmcilhany/

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned:

• LeapFrog (educational games and toys) – https://www.leapfrog.com
• U.S. Robotics (modems) – https://www.usr.com

=== SPONSORS

• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

Ever wonder how to secure remote access without costly VPNs? DefensX’s new ZTNA product is designed for MSPs and enterprises, offering granular control and flexible deployment. Dave Maik explains why their approach is different—and why MSPs are raving about the ability to mix and match features to fit client needs. 

Why Listen:

• Hear the story behind DefensX’s Innovator Vendor of the Year award
• Explore new ZTNA and browser security features
• Learn how DefensX supports MSPs with easy, flexible integrations
• Gain actionable advice for protecting against AI and browser-based attacks
• Get inspired by real-world success stories from the MSP community

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned: 

• DefensX – https://www.defensx.com
• Pax8 – https://www.pax8.com
• Microsoft Copilot – https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-copilot
• Halo (MSP platform) – https://www.halopsa.com
• Rewst – https://rewst.io/

=== SPONSORS

• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

=== MUSIC LICENSE CERTIFICATE

• Licensee: Marvin Bee
• Registered Project Name: IT Business Podcast
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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

Kim Simmonds, founder of Cloud Contracts 365, shares how her platform is transforming legal services for MSPs by automating contract creation, management, and risk review. With AI-powered tools, unlimited e-signatures, and direct access to US lawyers, MSPs of any size can now protect their business and grow with confidence.

Why Listen:

• Learn how to automate contract management and risk review for your MSP
• Discover the benefits of unlimited e-signatures and automated renewal reminders
• Hear Kim’s inspiring journey from New York law to UK tech innovation
• Get insights on how legal tech is making legal protection affordable and accessible
• Find out how Cloud Contracts 365 is helping MSPs meet insurance requirements and increase

Why Listen: 

• Automate contract creation, management, and risk review for your MSP
• Access unlimited e-signatures and automated renewal reminders
• Get direct support from US lawyers through the platform
• Build state-specific contracts tailored to your jurisdiction
• Stay compliant with changing legal and insurance requirements
• Increase your MSP’s valuation and protect your business
• Learn from Kim Simmonds’ unique journey from law to tech innovation
• Discover how legal tech is making legal protection affordable and accessible
• Find out how Cloud Contracts 365 is helping MSPs grow safely and confidently

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned

• Cloud Contracts 365– https://cloudcontracts365.com
• PAX 8 – https://www.pax8.com
• Microsoft Partners– https://partner.microsoft.com
• Adobe Sign – https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/sign.html

=== SPONSORS

• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid

=== MUSIC LICENSE CERTIFICATE

• Licensee: Marvin Bee
• Registered Project Name: IT Business Podcast
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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

Uncle Marv and Corey Kirkendoll explore the latest developments in managed IT, from the impact of AI and automation to the importance of community and collaboration. They discuss memorable moments from recent conferences, including IT Nation Secure and Pax8 Beyond, and share insights on how to navigate information overload and make strategic technology choices. Corey emphasizes the need for MSPs to brand their offerings and maintain flexibility in their tech stack, while also highlighting the value of customer relationships and follow-up. 

Why Listen: 

• Actionable Insights: Learn how to scale your MSP, leverage AI, and build a customer-focused business.
• Real-World Stories: Hear behind-the-scenes tales from IT conferences and the latest trends in swag and technology.
• Expert Advice: Gain practical tips from Corey Kirkendoll, a seasoned MSP leader with over 30 years of experience.
• Community Focus: Discover the value of collaboration, documentation, and community-driven growth in the IT industry.
• Entertainment Value: Enjoy a mix of humor, Florida Man stories, and industry insights that make this episode both informative and fun.

Florida Man Shoots Ex-Boss: https://www.perplexity.ai/page/florida-man-shoots-ex-boss-GfcwQEIrScOMZLjactisbA

Guest: 

Corey Kirkendoll is President and CEO of 5K Technical Services, an award-winning managed service provider (MSP) serving small and midsize businesses in North Texas. 

• Company Website: https://www.5ktech.com
• LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreykirkendoll

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned: 

• Cavelo – https://www.cavelo.com
• Syncro – https://www.syncromsp.com
• Absolute – https://www.absolute.com
• WatchGuard – https://www.watchguard.com
• Code Hunter – https://www.codehunter.com
• Devicie – https://www.devicie.com
• ConnectWise – https://www.connectwise.com
• Autotask – https://www.autotask.com
• NinjaOne – https://www.ninjaone.com
• Huntress – https://www.huntress.com
• SentinelOne – https://www.sentinelone.com
• OpenText – https://www.opentext.com

=== SPONSORS

• Premier Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/
• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid
• Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready

=== MUSIC LICENSE CERTIFICATE

• Licensee: Marvin Bee
• Registered Project Name: IT Business Podcast
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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

Brad Gross joins Uncle Marv to recap the PAX8 Beyond show in Denver, sharing first-hand insights as both an exhibitor and industry legal expert. They discuss the exhaustion and excitement of booth life, the launch of the MSP Terms cloud platform, and the critical new FTC rules on auto-renewals affecting MSPs and vendors. The episode covers legal pitfalls, vendor agreements, client lawsuits, and the importance of clear contracts and expectation management for MSPs.

Why Listen

• Get expert legal advice on the new FTC auto-renewal rules impacting MSPs and vendors.
• Learn practical strategies for managing contracts and client expectations.
• Discover how MSP Terms can streamline your contract process and boost compliance.
• Hear real-world stories from the PAX8 Beyond show, including lessons from the exhibitor floor.
• Understand the risks of vendor agreements and how to avoid common traps.
• Find out how to protect your MSP from client lawsuits and liability.

Companies, Products & Books Mentioned 

• MSP Terms: https://www.mspterms.com
• PAX8: https://www.pax8.com

=== SPONSORS

• Premier Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/
• Internet Provider, Rythmz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/rythmz
• Production Gear Partner, Liongard: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/liongard
• Travel Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip
• Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid
• Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready

=== MUSIC LICENSE CERTIFICATE

• Licensee: Marvin Bee
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=== Connect with Uncle Marv

🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast

If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.