In this lecture, Professor Thurman explains the concept of non-duality, and that emptiness doesn't mean we don't have a mind. Emptiness means we have an uncreated mind—it has always been there and it can never be destroyed. What this means is that we're already in nirvana, we've always been in nirvana, and we can't leave nirvana. But we can fail to enjoy it for a really long time!

This episode is an extract from a lecture given at Sacred Stream in Berkeley, California, on June 5, 2015.

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The Uncreated Mind Episode 20 the Bob Thurman Podcast is an excerpt from a teaching at Sacred Stream in Berkeley, California, recorded on June 5th, 2015.

This week’s episode’s of the Bob Thurman Podcast was brought to you in part through the support of the Tibet House US Membership Community and Menla Retreat and Dewa Spa in Phoenicia, New York. To learn more about this year’s Tibet House US Programs with Robert A.F. Thurman & Friends at Menla please visit: www.menla.us.

“The Uncreated Mind ” is apart of the Buddhist Inner Sciences 101 Podcast Series taken from the Bob Thurman & Tibet House US archives which are intended to provide an introduction to the yogic, meditative & theoretical practices of the tradition. These recordings are intended to be general overviews & one should be studying with a qualified teacher before attempting or engaging in the practices.

The song ‘Dancing Ling’ by Tenzin Choegyal from the album ‘Heart Sutra‘ (2004) by Ethno Super Lounge is used on the Bob Thurman Podcast with artist’s permission, all rights reserved.

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