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In this solo episode, Amy Wheeler explores one of the most important psychological teachings in the yoga tradition: the five kleśas, described in Chapter 2 of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. These teachings help explain why human beings experience suffering even when they are sincerely trying to live well.
Drawing from both Sāṅkhya philosophy and the Yoga Sūtra, Amy walks listeners through the deeper roots of suffering, beginning with the distinction between puruṣa (the witnessing consciousness) and prakṛti (the body, mind, senses, and the manifest world). When these two are confused, the mind becomes entangled in patterns of misperception, attachment, aversion, and fear. These patterns are what Pātañjali calls the kleśas.
Throughout the episode, Amy explains how these ancient teachings remain remarkably relevant today. The kleśas show up in modern life as over-identification with our roles, addiction to approval or stimulation, avoidance of discomfort, fear-driven decision making, and the constant pressure to control life so that we feel safe.
Rather than presenting yoga as a way to avoid suffering, Amy emphasizes that the deeper aim of yoga is to understand suffering clearly. Through practices such as movement, breath regulation, meditation, and ethical reflection, the practitioner gradually loosens the grip of these patterns and begins to remember their deeper nature.
The episode concludes with a reflection on one of Amy’s favorite teachings from the Yoga Sūtra: Yoga Sūtra 1.3, which describes the moment when awareness returns to its true nature and the seer rests in its essential state.
In This Episode
Amy explores:
• Why human beings suffer even when they are trying to live well
• The philosophical foundation of the Yoga Sūtra in Sāṅkhya philosophy
• The distinction between puruṣa (the witnessing consciousness) and prakṛti (the manifest world)
• How misperception leads to psychological suffering
• The five kleśas described in Yoga Sūtra 2.3
• How the kleśas appear in modern life and clinical practice
• Why yoga is fundamentally relational and practiced through human interaction
• How meditation helps return awareness to clarity and discernment
• The deeper meaning of Yoga Sūtra 1.3 and the experience of resting in one’s true nature
The Five Kleśas
The five kleśas are the underlying causes of suffering described by Pātañjali.
Avidyā — Misperception
The root kleśa. Avidyā occurs when we confuse the changing contents of experience with our deeper nature.
Asmitā — Misidentification
Over-identifying with personality, roles, reputation, or thoughts rather than recognizing the witnessing awareness behind them.
Rāga — Attachment
Clinging to experiences that feel pleasurable or validating, believing they will resolve deeper unease.
Dveṣa — Aversion
Avoiding experiences that feel painful or uncomfortable, which can lead to defensiveness, withdrawal, or emotional reactivity.
Abhiniveśa — Fear of Loss
The deep instinct to cling to life, identity, control, and stability. This fear can appear even in those who are wise and experienced.
Key Yoga Sūtras Referenced
Yoga Sūtra 2.3
Avidyā-asmitā-rāga-dveṣa-abhiniveśāḥ kleśāḥ
These five are the causes of suffering.
Yoga Sūtra 2.5
Avidyā is mistaking the impermanent for the permanent, the impure for the pure, pain for pleasure, and the non-self for the self.
Yoga Sūtra 1.3
Tadā draṣṭuḥ svarūpe ’vasthānam
Then the seer rests in its true nature.
Why This Matters for Yoga Therapy
The kleśas are not simply philosophical ideas. They describe patterns that appear frequently in modern life and clinical settings, including:
• psychological distress
• relational conflict
• addiction and compulsive behavior
• over-identification with roles or reputation
• fear-based decision making
• difficulty tolerating discomfort
Therapeutic yoga practices—movement, breathwork, attentional training, and ethical reflection—help practitioners gradually recognize and soften these patterns.
As clarity develops, individuals often experience greater nervous system stability, increased self-awareness, and a deeper capacity to observe thoughts and emotions without becoming completely defined by them.
Reflection Questions from the Episode
• What if the goal of yoga is not to become someone different, but to remember who we truly are?
• Where in your life do you notice attachment to approval, comfort, or certain emotional states?
• Where do you notice aversion or avoidance when something feels uncomfortable?
• Can you sense the difference between the changing experiences of the mind and the steadiness of the witnessing awareness behind them?
Final Reflection
The teachings of the kleśas remind us that suffering is not simply a personal failure or something to eliminate at all costs. It is part of the human condition. Yoga invites us to understand it, learn from it, and gradually see through the patterns that amplify it.
When the mind becomes clearer and less entangled in these patterns, the seer begins to rest in its true nature. From that place, life can be lived with greater steadiness, compassion, and freedom.
School of Integrative Health at NDMU: https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health
Master of Science in Yoga Therapy at NDMU https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health/yoga-therapy
Explore NDMU’s Post-Master’s Certificate in Therapeutic Yoga Practices https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health/yoga-therapy/post-masters-certificate-in-therapeutic-yoga-practices
#IntegrativeHealth #HealthcareEducation #InterprofessionalEducation #GraduateSchool #NDMUproud #SOIHproud #SOIHYoga #SOIHAyurveda #NDMUYoga #NDMUAyurveda #SOIHGraduateSchool
Try our Post-Bac Ayurveda Certification Program at NDMU: https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health/ayurveda/post-baccalaureate-ayurveda-certification
Amy’s website:
www.TheOptimalState.com
Yoga Therapy Hour Podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/yoga-therapy-hour-with-amy-wheeler/id1564687158
The Optimal State Mobile App
https://optimalstateapp.com
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In this solo episode, Amy Wheeler explores one of the most important psychological teachings in the yoga tradition: the five kleśas, described in Chapter 2 of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. These teachings help explain why human beings experience suffering even when they are sincerely trying to live well.
Drawing from both Sāṅkhya philosophy and the Yoga Sūtra, Amy walks listeners through the deeper roots of suffering, beginning with the distinction between puruṣa (the witnessing consciousness) and prakṛti (the body, mind, senses, and the manifest world). When these two are confused, the mind becomes entangled in patterns of misperception, attachment, aversion, and fear. These patterns are what Pātañjali calls the kleśas.
Throughout the episode, Amy explains how these ancient teachings remain remarkably relevant today. The kleśas show up in modern life as over-identification with our roles, addiction to approval or stimulation, avoidance of discomfort, fear-driven decision making, and the constant pressure to control life so that we feel safe.
Rather than presenting yoga as a way to avoid suffering, Amy emphasizes that the deeper aim of yoga is to understand suffering clearly. Through practices such as movement, breath regulation, meditation, and ethical reflection, the practitioner gradually loosens the grip of these patterns and begins to remember their deeper nature.
The episode concludes with a reflection on one of Amy’s favorite teachings from the Yoga Sūtra: Yoga Sūtra 1.3, which describes the moment when awareness returns to its true nature and the seer rests in its essential state.
In This Episode
Amy explores:
• Why human beings suffer even when they are trying to live well
• The philosophical foundation of the Yoga Sūtra in Sāṅkhya philosophy
• The distinction between puruṣa (the witnessing consciousness) and prakṛti (the manifest world)
• How misperception leads to psychological suffering
• The five kleśas described in Yoga Sūtra 2.3
• How the kleśas appear in modern life and clinical practice
• Why yoga is fundamentally relational and practiced through human interaction
• How meditation helps return awareness to clarity and discernment
• The deeper meaning of Yoga Sūtra 1.3 and the experience of resting in one’s true nature
The Five Kleśas
The five kleśas are the underlying causes of suffering described by Pātañjali.
Avidyā — Misperception
The root kleśa. Avidyā occurs when we confuse the changing contents of experience with our deeper nature.
Asmitā — Misidentification
Over-identifying with personality, roles, reputation, or thoughts rather than recognizing the witnessing awareness behind them.
Rāga — Attachment
Clinging to experiences that feel pleasurable or validating, believing they will resolve deeper unease.
Dveṣa — Aversion
Avoiding experiences that feel painful or uncomfortable, which can lead to defensiveness, withdrawal, or emotional reactivity.
Abhiniveśa — Fear of Loss
The deep instinct to cling to life, identity, control, and stability. This fear can appear even in those who are wise and experienced.
Key Yoga Sūtras Referenced
Yoga Sūtra 2.3
Avidyā-asmitā-rāga-dveṣa-abhiniveśāḥ kleśāḥ
These five are the causes of suffering.
Yoga Sūtra 2.5
Avidyā is mistaking the impermanent for the permanent, the impure for the pure, pain for pleasure, and the non-self for the self.
Yoga Sūtra 1.3
Tadā draṣṭuḥ svarūpe ’vasthānam
Then the seer rests in its true nature.
Why This Matters for Yoga Therapy
The kleśas are not simply philosophical ideas. They describe patterns that appear frequently in modern life and clinical settings, including:
• psychological distress
• relational conflict
• addiction and compulsive behavior
• over-identification with roles or reputation
• fear-based decision making
• difficulty tolerating discomfort
Therapeutic yoga practices—movement, breathwork, attentional training, and ethical reflection—help practitioners gradually recognize and soften these patterns.
As clarity develops, individuals often experience greater nervous system stability, increased self-awareness, and a deeper capacity to observe thoughts and emotions without becoming completely defined by them.
Reflection Questions from the Episode
• What if the goal of yoga is not to become someone different, but to remember who we truly are?
• Where in your life do you notice attachment to approval, comfort, or certain emotional states?
• Where do you notice aversion or avoidance when something feels uncomfortable?
• Can you sense the difference between the changing experiences of the mind and the steadiness of the witnessing awareness behind them?
Final Reflection
The teachings of the kleśas remind us that suffering is not simply a personal failure or something to eliminate at all costs. It is part of the human condition. Yoga invites us to understand it, learn from it, and gradually see through the patterns that amplify it.
When the mind becomes clearer and less entangled in these patterns, the seer begins to rest in its true nature. From that place, life can be lived with greater steadiness, compassion, and freedom.
School of Integrative Health at NDMU: https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health
Master of Science in Yoga Therapy at NDMU https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health/yoga-therapy
Explore NDMU’s Post-Master’s Certificate in Therapeutic Yoga Practices https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health/yoga-therapy/post-masters-certificate-in-therapeutic-yoga-practices
#IntegrativeHealth #HealthcareEducation #InterprofessionalEducation #GraduateSchool #NDMUproud #SOIHproud #SOIHYoga #SOIHAyurveda #NDMUYoga #NDMUAyurveda #SOIHGraduateSchool
Try our Post-Bac Ayurveda Certification Program at NDMU: https://www.ndm.edu/academics/integrative-health/ayurveda/post-baccalaureate-ayurveda-certification
Amy’s website:
www.TheOptimalState.com
Yoga Therapy Hour Podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/yoga-therapy-hour-with-amy-wheeler/id1564687158
The Optimal State Mobile App
https://optimalstateapp.com

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