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In this special series, Max shares why we’re hosting and preserving the Unbounded archive at Ungovernable Misfits. In the fourth re-release of the series, Dojo Coder (Pavel)— a long-time cypherpunk builder whose code has powered Samourai Wallet, Dojo and Ronin Dojo joins tbd.
Tbd and Pavel dig into the current state of Ronin Dojo, why the project remains alive despite setbacks, and a near-term UI update that will reintroduce a transaction privacy visualiser inspired by the now-defunct KYCP.org. Pavel also reflects on Ashigaru—a community fork of Samourai Wallet—and the relaunch of Whirlpool as an open act of defiance, the trade-offs and trust questions it raises, and practical guidance on evaluating transparency and risk. We close with Soroban’s peer-to-peer relay for Dojo to further obfuscate transaction origins, why code is speech even when courts disagree, and how listeners can support the Samourai legal defence while staying informed through reliable voices in the privacy community.
Stay resilient, and enjoy the series as we continue with Colonial in the weeks ahead.
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(00:00) Thank You TBD
(01:41) INTRO
(03:25) The Origin Story
(09:44) Ronin Dojo: Still Alive
(13:53) The Human Cost of Building
(23:32) The Bitcoin Privacy Movement
(34:52) Support Bill and Keonne
In this Confab, Max sits down with Vik Sharɱa, founder and CEO of Cake Wallet, for a candid journey from his early hacking days on the Apple II, through decades in the steel industry, to discovering Bitcoin in 2013 and Monero in 2016.
Vik shares the eye‑opening moment Coinbase shut his account for a small darknet market purchase of antibiotics—an incident that catalysed his deep dive into privacy and ultimately inspired Cake Wallet’s creation. Max and Vik explore why privacy should be a default, how Monero’s out‑of‑the‑box protections compare with Bitcoin’s more complex privacy tooling, and why a multi‑coin world empowers users rather than divides them. Max and Vik also dig into the rapid rise of AI: how it’s reshaping software development, enabling non‑coders to build real tools, and what it might mean for self‑custody and user experience in the months ahead.
Vik reflects on the growing global demand for financial privacy and access—especially via stablecoins as on‑ramps—while emphasising real‑world utility as the backbone of value. He recounts Cake’s experimental culture (silent payments, PayJoin v2, Lightning via Spark) and the team’s willingness to learn in public. Max and Vik wrap on why decentralised money and local/secure AI can help people everywhere earn, spend, and build without permission, and why he’s more optimistic today than he was a few years ago about privacy tech gaining mainstream traction.
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Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
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(00:00) INTRO
(01:11) BOOSTS
(03:42) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(04:40) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET
(05:53) Welcome Vik!
(07:11) Before Crypto: Steel, Engineering & Early Tech
(14:36) The Bitcoin Rabbit Hole
(23:05) Building Cake Wallet
(27:07) Privacy, Tribalism & the Maxi Mentality
(42:14) Where It's All Going
(49:25) THANK YOU MYNYMBOX
In these episodes, we read Keonne’s recent letters written from FPC Morgantown. The aim in sharing this is simple: amplify Keonne’s story, support him and Bill, and ensure help reaches their families. If his voice isn’t your thing, the full text is linked in the show notes—please read, listen, and share. Consider sending a letter, a book via an approved retailer, or some sats. Your support matters, and together we can keep their stories alive and make a tangible difference.
LINK TO THE LETTER AT THE RAGE
Write to Keonne:
Keonne Rodriguez
11404-511
FPC Morgantown
FEDERAL PRISON CAMP
P.O. BOX 1000
MORGANTOWN, WV 26507
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Please note: You can only send letters (no more than 3 pages long). No packages or other items are allowed. Books, magazines, and newspapers must be sent directly from the publisher or an online retailer like Amazon. All letters must include a full return address and sender name to be delivered.
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Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
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CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
MYNYMBOX
https://mynymbox.io
Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.
Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.
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https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
MYNYMBOX
https://mynymbox.io
Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.
Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.
(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:00:57) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:01:38) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET
(00:02:43) PRIME TIME
(00:07:16) PSA: Avoid SamouraiWallet.com
(00:12:16) Vibe Coding Corner
(00:20:09) Kentucky HB 380 Would Break Self‑Custody
(00:24:31)
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Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
FOUNDATION
https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
(00:00:01) INTRO
(00:01:12) The Ish
(00:12:03) Monero Keys
(00:21:37) Monero & LN Swaps
(00:25:07) Carrot Passes Cypherstack Audit
(00:30:25) FCMP++ Multi-Stage Audit SOON
(00:33:35) P2Pool Released on TrueNAS
(00:34:13) Monero SuperBrain on Umbrel
(00:37:22) The BIG Cake Update
(00:44:42) New Monerujo!
(00:47:14) Skylight on iOS
(00:48:41) Gupax v2.0
(00:49:56) BitKart
(00:50:59) New Monerod
(00:51:58) XMR Chats
(01:04:11) OUTRO
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FOUNDATION
https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
MYNYMBOX
https://mynymbox.io
Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.
Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.
In this Confab, Max sits down with veteran journalists Rod Palmer and Richard “Dick” Greaser to take the pulse of Bitcoin culture after a year away from the fray. They dive into the surge of intra-community debates (from node client wars to “paper Bitcoin” angst), why pleb politics resemble bread-and-circuses, and how Maxi Madness—now running in parallel on Nostr and X—has evolved into a spirited, democratic spectacle that both celebrates and sharpens the culture.
Max, Rod and Dick also explore the uneasy overlap of AI and Bitcoin: from “AI glaze” addiction and identity crises to why creativity and fun are strategic advantages, culminating in the debut of a powerful Maxi Madness anthem collaboration with singer Noah Grumman. Beyond the headlines, we talk cultural drift, keeping conviction amid price fatigue, and why playfulness, music, and building matter as much as technical progress. If you’ve felt the scene get too serious, this conversation is a reminder to have fun, create, and participate—because eternal glory awaits in Maxi Madness and beyond.
Maxi Madness brackets and voting on X (Bitcoin Bugle) and Nostr (Primal), the bracket pick’em challenge, and prediction markets via PreX (Bitcoin-only).
MAXI MADNESS SUPER LINK: https://maximadness.carrd.co/
BUGLE NEWS WEBSITE: https://bugle.news
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https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
MYNYMBOX
https://mynymbox.io
Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.
Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.
(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:01:02) BOOSTS
(00:02:13) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:03:00) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET
(00:04:01) THANK YOU MYNYMBOX
(00:05:31) What's the Scoop?
(00:19:35) Saylor, Paper BTC & The Cyber Hornets
(00:22:53) BIPs and Circuses
(00:29:08) Maxi Madness 2026
(00:49:52) AI Glazing
(00:57:28) Maxi Madness Anthem
(01:01:06) Building Culture in the First Turning
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FOUNDATION
https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
MYNYMBOX
https://mynymbox.io
Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.
Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.
(00:00) INTRO
(00:57) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(01:38) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET
(02:43) Vibe Cornin'
(17:42) PRIME TIME
(19:58) Notes From The Inside: The Skinwalker
(23:43) Motorola Graphene
(26:44) The Cyber Strategy
(29:30) John "Lick" Daghita Arrested for Crypto Crimes
(31:39) US Treasury Acknowledges Cryptocurrency 'Mixers'
(33:50) Strike Obtains a Bit License
(34:43) Bitaxe Touch Released
(36:40) Bitwise to Donate $233,000 to BTC Open Source
(37:32) BOOSTS
(43:41) Tail Relay
(45:02) Stealth Announced
(47:39) The Big Cake 6.0.1 Release
(48:41) The Rest of the Software Updates
(52:14) Blixt Payment Pools
(54:48) THANK YOU MYNYMBOX
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Stealth Github: https://github.com/LORDBABUINO/stealth/tree/main
Presentation: https://github.com/LORDBABUINO/stealth/blob/main/slides/Stealth%20%E2%80%94%20Bitcoin%20Wallet%20Privacy%20Analyzer%20_%20Stealth.pdf
Website: https://stealth.shakespeare.wtf
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FOUNDATION
https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
MYNYMBOX
https://mynymbox.io
Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.
Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.
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