This was recorded on December 9, 2024, the day 26-year-old Luigi Mangione was arrested and charged with killing UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan. John and Lauren are covering the very latest in this crime. Subscribe for additional episodes coming soon.

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