[Aired originally Jun 11 2025 via patreon.com/nicemangos]

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Dutch Journalist Gillian de Nooijer joins me for a conversation about the Dutch far right. Find Gillian on Bsky: Gilliandn.bsky.social and on twitter: @GillianDN

We discuss Geert Wilders, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Pim Fortuyn (who was assassinated in 2002) and self-described conspiracy theorist Thierry Baudet. We also chat about the controversial blackface character in The Netherlands known as Zwarte Piet, Eurabia & Netherabia conspiracy theories…. Douglas Murray comes up… and so does Israel….

Links

Podcast Fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/f/polite-conversations-podcast-get-new-equipment

Douglas Murray Speech at Pim Fortuyn Memorial Titled: ‘What are we to do about Islam? A speech to the Pim Fortuyn Memorial Conference on Europe and Islam’

https://web.archive.org/web/20080201133647/http://www.socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000809.php

Ayaan Hirsi Ali Dutch citizenship controversy: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/16/nicholaswatt.mainsection

Theo Van Gogh assassinated and Ayaan threatened https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/11/29/dutch-politician-plans-sequal-to-gogh-movie

Islamophobia in Europe: How governments are enabling the far-right ‘counter-jihad’ movement

(More info about funders of anti muslim organizations, publications and public figures like Geert Wilders) https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/192414854/Aked_Jones_Miller_Counterjihad_report_2019.pdf

Geert Wilders' questionable American patron https://www.ftm.eu/articles/geert-wilders-american-patron

Vox explainer on Zwarte Piet https://youtube.com/shorts/TDA4HbuEcxM?si=Khja025EQsfpHZ-c

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