Well, we kept the wannabe Trumpians out.

But …things are undeniably more rightwing.

What now?

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[Apologies for my flu voice in the intro]

Join myself and Patron of the show - photographer & healthcare worker Joe / @Brownsvillain (on Twitter) for a conversation about the tactics of the ‘anti-woke’ and what lies beneath the surface of such grievances. We discuss the Covid19 pandemic, Trump’s campaign of cruelty and how many anti-woke grievances were a precursor to this fascist moment. 

Links: 

The Norman Mailer Essay about the 1964 Republican Convention that came up in conversation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Red_Light

Civil Rights Documentary mentioned in the episode: ‘Eyes on the Prize’ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/eyesontheprize/

Hope not Hate investigation on Race ‘Science’ https://investigations.hopenothate.org.uk/race-science-inc/

Calgary removed fluoride from its water supply. A decade later, it's adding it back

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/13/nx-s1-5224138/calgary-removed-fluoride-from-its-water-supply-a-decade-later-its-adding-it-back

Israeli Football Hooligans in Amsterdam episode: 

Public version: https://open.spotify.com/episode/69rGp8OV9Wi8IFcNJoq8kh?si=fmcNXCqETb2Y7UP94jknVQ

Extended version: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-88-israeli-in-117803351?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Trump Guts Key Civil Rights Protections With New Executive Order

https://truthout.org/articles/trump-guts-key-civil-rights-protections-with-new-executive-order/

Find Joe on

Instagram: @brownsvillain

Bluesky: @brownsvillain.bsky.social

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Generally kinkshaming is not great, but when it comes to fascist and rightwing kinks, I think we can make an exception. We should Mock Elon’s breeding fetish any chance we get, and boy did a recent article present us with a great opportunity to do so.

Join me for a casual reading of some highlights from the recent WSJ piece on Elon’s ‘legion’ of babies.

The Tactics Elon Musk Uses to Manage His ‘Legion’ of Babies—and Their Mothers is a Wall Street Journal article by Dana Mattioli

Here’s a paywall free version of the article: https://archive.ph/2025.04.16-014447/https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-musk-children-mothers-ashley-st-clair-grimes-dc7ba05c

Other links:

Twitter DMs being replaced: https://mashable.com/article/x-to-replace-dm-with-x-chat

The Polite conversations Fascist Feminism episode I mentioned https://open.spotify.com/episode/7JH7H6y5M0Erh5qGSAfj6Z?si=u9DZqgVISP6Tz82Iaj3ayA

Food and Fascism episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ESZbJst9wpaEaEGziGSFo?si=kTozQIYwS-m3Kt_Ioof8Sg

Race ‘Science’ series

Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1r8AfX2Z15mkgDBr8Q0e8g?si=E-iLgueLQZa6DUMuULJOJQ

Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/12HQ6bzV3iB0dhGwkgRQ3v?si=WuIv-wigRIifsFEeTEQqmw

Pt 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ZRzUS4RBy3qq3zo9Enaly?si=b_wklTJmQsOfLrrlTd-Ysg

Ex Mus to Trad Fash Pipeline series

Pt 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/106445369

Pt 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/106501752

Pt 3: https://www.patreon.com/posts/106529773

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This is a clip from the recent episode titled ‘Transphobia in the New Atheist Scene’ - I was joined by Exvangelical writer Chrissy Stroop for this conversation. Chrissy talks about the debate culture that is holding atheist advocacy back, and I take a look back at some the worst debatebros in my DMs.

Find the public version of the episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UIAKby4Nih0Bm5sO4q72H?si=HUPXlNKESLG61Z9Bk-G0kw

And the extended version here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-94-in-new-124954055?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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This is a clip from the recent episode titled ‘Transphobia in the New Atheist Scene’ - I was joined by Exvangelical writer Chrissy Stroop for this conversation.

Find the public version of the episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UIAKby4Nih0Bm5sO4q72H?si=HUPXlNKESLG61Z9Bk-G0kw

And the extended version here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-94-in-new-124954055?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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This is a clip from the recent episode titled ‘Transphobia in the New Atheist Scene’ - I was joined by Exvangelical writer Chrissy Stroop for this conversation.

Find the public version of the episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UIAKby4Nih0Bm5sO4q72H?si=HUPXlNKESLG61Z9Bk-G0kw

And the extended version here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-94-in-new-124954055?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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An impromptu conversation Chrissy Stroop and I had following our previous chat about Transphobia in the New Atheist scene. I decided to record it and turn it into a Bonus mini ep.

We talk about what Pro Natalism really means and how it’s spreading among the self-professed Rational types online.

Radicalized Ex-Muslim Sarah Haider comes up, as well as the topic of how the ‘pro natalist’ scene often openly discusses hitting children as a valid disciplining tactic. 

I have a deeper dive into this topic, if you’re interested in it check out my post about it here - a part of my ExMuslim to TradFash Pipieline series: 

‘Hipster Eugenicists, Birthrates …. & Beating Children’

https://www.patreon.com/posts/106529773

Check out my recent convo with Chrissy about Transphobia in the New Atheist scene here: 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UIAKby4Nih0Bm5sO4q72H?si=YEVVGcPUTy-IvRUQjsDXjA

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https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-94-in-new-124954055?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

‘Hipster eugenics’: why is the media cosying up to people who want to build a super race?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/20/pro-natalism-babies-global-population-genetics

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I was joined by Chrissy Stroop, fellow atheist, cofounder of The Flytrap & senior correspondent for Religion Dispatches - for a chat about recent drama in the New Atheist scene.  Some dinosaur atheists (Dawkins, Pinker, Coyne) recently quit their positions on the honorary board at the Freedom from Religion Foundation, because of their inability to keep up with the times & what science says about gender today. These old farts would like to keep insisting that gender is an absolute binary, and they are willing to have multiple tantrums about it. 

We discuss this and more, as it’s all happening against the backdrop of America’s crumbling democracy. The New Atheists are in bed with the Christian right, and they don’t like to be reminded of that. 

Links: 

• Here’s Chrissy’s previous appearance on Polite Conversations
• Some additional New Atheism Episodes you might enjoy ICYMI: 
•  Dawkins Delusion
• Pinker’s Pernicious Politeness Pt. 1
• Pinker Pt 2
• Transphobic Meltdown (Sam Harris)

• All of the Anti-Trans Executive Orders Trump has signed
• Read more details about the background of this drama around FFRF here
• Coyne defends Musk’s salute
• Andy Ngo’s start at CFI https://jewishcurrents.org/the-making-of-andy-ngo
• Dawkins recommends Doug Murray’s white nationalist book
• David Silverman fired after allegations of sexual misconduct
• American Atheists board members exit, dogged by misconduct allegations
• Israel commits largest child massacre in it’s history https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-03-21/ty-article-opinion/.premium/even-anti-war-israelis-are-scared-to-say-gazans-are-human-beings/00000195-b525-d862-a3b5-f53704750000
• Find The FlyTrap here: https://theflytrap.beehiiv.com/

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This is a clip from the recent episode titled ‘Trumpocalypse: Who enabled the Gamergate-ification of America’

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This is a clip from the recent episode titled ‘Trumpocalypse: Who enabled the Gamergate-ification of America’

Find the public version of the episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Vcyf5eIcyb6kYcESX5x0Q?si=2vi2uLDcQTK4k2weth_O3w

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