Polite Conversations

This is pt 2 of a 2 part episode. Check out pt 1 first:

Public version:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4PlQNmDGLZImSzBWe5Szu7?si=31WFEq7zSnSrZspO1AeO0w

Extended Patreon Version:

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Dr. David S. Smith joins me for an in-depth conversation about the manosphere & inceldom. We discuss different subgroups in the manosphere, (Incels [Involuntary Celibates]. MGTOWs [Men Going Their Own Way], MRAs [Men’s Rights Activists]), incel terminology (Red/Blue/Black pill, Trucels, etc) and more.

We also discuss how these online subcultures are relevant to what we see in the news today (ICE/IDF) as well as how manosphere talking points have been normalized by IDW ‘intellectuals’.

If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos

Find the extended version of this episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/152983072

Find Dr. David Smith’s book - The Incel Mindset here (or request it through your library): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-16385-1

Read more of his findings here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10714421.2024.2383814

Links:

On Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455

Eliot Rodger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Rodger

Jordan Peterson Enforced Monogamy - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html

Archived version: https://archive.ph/iL02i

Here’s an episode I did in 2018 on the Manosphere with Kevin Logan and a former MGTOW/MRA (pt 1): https://open.spotify.com/episode/25Gd8OXb5It3S87XsQilve?si=Rzw_wK1WQ9yFWxajegVQ2g

(pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/55gpE6KXENaOGbjX3IGVxE?si=kdMPyTilRbuY61HEML4-Fg

The popular Evopsych episode came up in this episode too. Find it here: (pt 1) https://open.spotify.com/episode/4jSFhcmT6xNJ4JOwbEkscE?si=sBz3iCdPRZKi3aFQZXwDxQ

(Pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/5gvuP3xLyqKSpJgTjf43A3?si=dFCP469jQwyM4otX24URBQ

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Dr. David S. Smith joins me for an in-depth conversation about the manosphere & inceldom. We discuss different subgroups in the manosphere, (Incels [Involuntary Celibates]. MGTOWs [Men Going Their Own Way], MRAs [Men’s Rights Activists]), incel terminology (Red/Blue/Black pill, Trucels, etc) and more.

We also discuss how these online subcultures are relevant to what we see in the news today (ICE/IDF) as well as how manosphere talking points have been normalized by IDW ‘intellectuals’.

If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos

Find the extended version of the episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-105-mapping-1-152979500

Find Dr. David Smith’s book - The Incel Mindset here (or request it through your library): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-16385-1

Read more of his findings here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10714421.2024.2383814

Links:

On Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455

Eliot Rodger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Rodger

Jordan Peterson Enforced Monogamy - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html

Archived version: https://archive.ph/iL02i

Here’s an episode I did in 2018 on the Manosphere with Kevin Logan and a former MGTOW/MRA (pt 1): https://open.spotify.com/episode/25Gd8OXb5It3S87XsQilve?si=Rzw_wK1WQ9yFWxajegVQ2g

(pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/55gpE6KXENaOGbjX3IGVxE?si=kdMPyTilRbuY61HEML4-Fg

The popular Evopsych episode came up in this episode too. Find it here: (pt 1) https://open.spotify.com/episode/4jSFhcmT6xNJ4JOwbEkscE?si=sBz3iCdPRZKi3aFQZXwDxQ

(Pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/5gvuP3xLyqKSpJgTjf43A3?si=dFCP469jQwyM4otX24URBQ

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Join me for an episode about how obscene the casual celebration of violence towards Iran, Gaza, Muslims in general has been lately (shockingly, Sam Harris comes up). 

[This is a RE-RELEASE of an episode from July 2025, when the US & Israel were engaged in the same sort of thing we're seeing today. Still very relevant today sadly.]

Find the extended version via patreon.com/nicemangos

Links:

• Near Identical statements from Canada, UK, Aus https://x.com/dropsitenews/status/1936892596678197535?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• Speaking in tongues at the White House: https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1937134487852503137?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• Israel places its military HQ's in civilian neighbourhoods and towns: https://x.com/tparsi/status/1935733115114127475?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• No proof of a systematic effort to move into a nuclear weapon” Director Gen of the IAEA https://x.com/amanpour/status/1935095391109922822?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• clips of Netenyahu claiming Iran has been ‘weeks away’ from nukes for the last 30 years: https://x.com/deanobeidallah/status/1935141637660774892?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• Guardian piece on Iran, referenced in the episode https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/22/the-guardian-view-on-trump-bombing-iran-an-and-reckless-act
• Netenyahu talks of having to delay his son’s wedding https://bsky.app/profile/antizionistjew.bsky.social/post/3lrxppo3qkc2a
• BBC Journalist tweets ‘Bomb, Bomb Iran’ 
• https://x.com/indiawilloughby/status/1936815923245265297?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• US strikes fail to destroy Iran’s nuclear sites
• https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-2025-06-23/
• Ben Gvir ‘Those who bomb hospitals are Nazis’ https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1935700095791513697?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw
• Research finds the BBC coverage of Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza is systematically biased against Palestinians and fails to reach standards of impartiality. https://novaramedia.com/2025/06/16/bbc-systematically-biased-against-palestinians-in-gaza-coverage/

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This is pt 2 of a 2-part episode, if you haven’t checked out pt 1 yet you can find it here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5yOQT2njL0E7KUXH17SE15?si=yDaT23xvSMeksbbzM9-9jQ

find the extended version here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/fashademics-2-pt-151478512?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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Linguist Dr. Caitlin Green joins me to explore the views and positions of one Jonathan Haidt. We talk IDW/Heterodox stuff, anti-anti racism, transphobia, reactionary centrism, race ‘science’ and mentions in the Epstein files.

If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos and unlock ad-free extended episodes! 

Both parts 1 & 2 of this ep are up early for patrons

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Links

Find Caitlin & Trent’s podcast, ‘Half the Answer’ here:  https://youtu.be/LFeIRhvEZns?si=L7aDdg4sMGjZ5rKJ

Haidt stands with Israel: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1711051817499472328?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Haidt blames intersectionality for anti-Israel sentiment: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1712641827528909266?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Using Grok CSAM scandal to push for more social media bans instead of accountability: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/2010345277564334482?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Haidt’ S Edge.org piece from 2009: Faster Evolution Means More Ethnic Differences https://www.edge.org/response-detail/10376

Kristen Bell Says She and Dax Shepard Let Their Daughters Roam a Danish Amusement Park Alone: 'Didn't See Them for 7 Hours' https://people.com/kristen-bell-says-she-let-kids-roam-danish-amusement-park-alone-8716121

Ezra Klein interview with Haidt: https://youtu.be/RN2GhPal4qA?si=7XY7TFNrf3EAzArd

Haidt Crimes: On Moral Foundations Theory and the Normalization of Fascism

https://www.theflytrapmedia.com/haidt-crimes-on-moral-foundations-theory-and-the-normalization-of-fascism-christian-nationalism/

Thread re: Greenblatt’s awkward intvw with a white identitarian https://bsky.app/profile/nicemangos.bsky.social/post/3m23otynuc22n

If you enjoy this episode, check out the 2-Part ep on Pinker: 

Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5UMuX2BkACiuPIhsPKIB5a?si=Ty4Wcd25RQG0hydlTsjR6g

(Ad free Patreon version):

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973413?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4LmIYPtWutuaAkD57GCxy7?si=-64nSgmQS-O6tvZMH4c4qg

(Ad free Patreon version):

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973853?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

And the episode on Richard Dawkins: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1uSIJRoF9LxkkNtRYBZvRV?si=sOxTysnMSnWYcPGbz-UHGw

(Ad free Patreon version):

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Linguist Dr. Caitlin Green joins me to explore the views and positions of one Jonathan Haidt. We talk IDW/Heterodox stuff, anti-anti racism, transphobia, reactionary centrism, race ‘science’ and mentions in the Epstein files.

If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos and unlock ad-free extended episodes! 

Both parts 1 & 2 of this ep are up early for patrons

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Polite Conversations is a member of Harbinger Media - subscribe to their weekly newsletter for the latest in new episodes from left & progressive Canadian podcasts via harbingermedianetwork.com 

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Links

Find Caitlin & Trent’s podcast, ‘Half the Answer’ here:  https://youtu.be/LFeIRhvEZns?si=L7aDdg4sMGjZ5rKJ

Haidt stands with Israel: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1711051817499472328?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Haidt blames intersectionality for anti-Israel sentiment: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1712641827528909266?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Using Grok CSAM scandal to push for more social media bans instead of accountability: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/2010345277564334482?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Haidt’ S Edge.org piece from 2009: Faster Evolution Means More Ethnic Differences https://www.edge.org/response-detail/10376

Kristen Bell Says She and Dax Shepard Let Their Daughters Roam a Danish Amusement Park Alone: 'Didn't See Them for 7 Hours' https://people.com/kristen-bell-says-she-let-kids-roam-danish-amusement-park-alone-8716121

Ezra Klein interview with Haidt: https://youtu.be/RN2GhPal4qA?si=7XY7TFNrf3EAzArd

Haidt Crimes: On Moral Foundations Theory and the Normalization of Fascism

https://www.theflytrapmedia.com/haidt-crimes-on-moral-foundations-theory-and-the-normalization-of-fascism-christian-nationalism/

Thread re: Greenblatt’s awkward intvw with a white identitarian https://bsky.app/profile/nicemangos.bsky.social/post/3m23otynuc22n

If you enjoy this episode, check out the 2-Part ep on Pinker: 

Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5UMuX2BkACiuPIhsPKIB5a?si=Ty4Wcd25RQG0hydlTsjR6g

(Ad free Patreon version):

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973413?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4LmIYPtWutuaAkD57GCxy7?si=-64nSgmQS-O6tvZMH4c4qg

(Ad free Patreon version):

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973853?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

And the episode on Richard Dawkins: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1uSIJRoF9LxkkNtRYBZvRV?si=sOxTysnMSnWYcPGbz-UHGw

(Ad free Patreon version):

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A clip from my 3-Part Charlie Kirk series: MAGA Martyrdom & The Holy War

Find the public episodes here:

Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1WDrtiDnrtcJTemVw79ugr?si=wlYaPzAHSGOgh0he4GB4pQ

Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/00nHMKH8HRZa0oOU7z4vSP?si=YCjJC-5sT5GevaqhiPqR8w

Pt 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5HbuIoaXqLmNpUo8449PWX?si=Rj9sTLdOThmaBr4WeJNEIw

And the Extended versions via Patreon:

Pt 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-140530322?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Pt 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-141151908

Pt 3: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-142108786?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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With the ludicrous FIFA Peace Prize, the endless deployment of the National Guard… in addition to the ICE horrors that continue across the country, the National Guard shooting, and of course the Moron-in-chief who also resides in DC himself ….it just seemed like we needed to talk about wtf was happening in DC.

And who better to do it with than residents, who are also patrons of the show.

[Names have been changed for privacy reasons]

Links:

National Guard to remain in nation's capital through 2026 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-guard-remain-nations-capital-2026/story?id=129295281

Lawfare posts referenced in the episode: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/deploying-the-d.c.-national-guard

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-situation--standing-around-in-washington--dc

Trump's National Guard deployments could cost over $1 billion this year, CBO projects https://www.npr.org/2026/01/28/nx-s1-5690394/national-guard-deployments-cost-cbo

Patreon Exclusive post: Sam Harris… in the Epstein Files?! https://www.patreon.com/posts/149970030

Trump Collectively Punishes Afghan community https://zeteo.com/p/trump-collectively-punishes-afghan/comments

Jury acquits D.C. 'sandwich guy' charged with chucking a sub at a federal agent https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/dc-sandwich-guy-verdict-rcna242142

Israel kills Gaza aid workers from World Central Kitchen, Save The Children https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2024/12/1/israel-kills-gaza-aid-workers-from-world-central-kitchen-save-the-children

Chef José Andrés Says ‘Good People’ On Both Sides of Gaza Conflict https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/07/11/peace-meals-chef-jose-andres-says-good-people-on-both-sides-of-gaza-conflict-ill-served-by-leaders-food-can-bridge-divide/

Canadian woman put in chains, detained by ICE after entering San Diego border https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTsIzFryEBg

US supreme court ‘effectively legalized racial profiling’, immigration experts warn https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/09/supreme-court-immigration-los-angeles-reaction

The Feminist Killjoy Handbook: The Radical Potential of Getting in the Way Sara Ahmed https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/103489828-the-feminist-killjoy-handbook

White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide https://www.professorcarolanderson.org/white-rage

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A clip from my 3-Part Charlie Kirk series: MAGA Martyrdom & The Holy War

Find the public episodes here:

Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1WDrtiDnrtcJTemVw79ugr?si=wlYaPzAHSGOgh0he4GB4pQ

Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/00nHMKH8HRZa0oOU7z4vSP?si=YCjJC-5sT5GevaqhiPqR8w

Pt 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5HbuIoaXqLmNpUo8449PWX?si=Rj9sTLdOThmaBr4WeJNEIw

And the Extended versions via Patreon:

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Pt 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-141151908

Pt 3: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-142108786?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Polite Conversations Race ‘Science’ episodes:

Pt 1 https://spotify.link/otjmpUOgOXb

Pt 2 https://spotify.link/7l3SgcUgOXb

Pt 3 https://spotify.link/Jqw8rqWgOXb

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A clip from my 3-Part Charlie Kirk series: MAGA Martyrdom & The Holy War

Find the public episodes here:

Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1WDrtiDnrtcJTemVw79ugr?si=wlYaPzAHSGOgh0he4GB4pQ

Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/00nHMKH8HRZa0oOU7z4vSP?si=YCjJC-5sT5GevaqhiPqR8w

Pt 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5HbuIoaXqLmNpUo8449PWX?si=Rj9sTLdOThmaBr4WeJNEIw

And the Extended versions via Patreon:

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Pt 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-141151908

Pt 3: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-101-maga-holy-142108786?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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