This conversation with James McKirdy, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim explores the top three/top two conundrum in the men's Olympic Trials marathon.

The discussion delves into the rules and regulations set by World Athletics, the governing body for the sport, and the impact on American athletes. The concept of unlocking spots for the Olympics is explained, along with the role of rankings and time standards. The conversation also highlights the disparity between American men and women in marathon performance and the need to focus on time rather than just racing. Overall, the conversation provides clarity on the complex qualification process for the Olympics.