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This week on Who Gave Jeff Allen a Podcast?, Jeff and Carollynn sit down with Michele Pillar—three-time Grammy-nominated singer, speaker, and author of Untangled: The Truth Will Set You Free for one of the most powerful and raw conversations yet.

From the outside, Michele had it all: chart-topping music, industry acclaim, and a platform to share her faith. But behind the scenes, she was spiritually unraveling. This episode covers her incredible journey from childhood trauma and perfectionism, through moral failure and cancelation, to a miraculous moment where Jesus literally sat beside her on the edge of the bed—and began to untangle her life thread by thread.

🎯 In This Episode:

• The story behind her fall from Christian music and how she survived public shame
• Why forgiveness is more than a choice—it’s a miracle
• How she found healing from childhood abuse, anxiety, and abandonment
• The unforgettable image of Jesus and a ball of tangled string
• How she now helps women shed shame through her “Clothesline Conference” ministry

If you’ve ever struggled with shame, perfectionism, or feeling too far gone, this conversation is a stunning reminder that nothing is too tangled for God to redeem.

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