It has been a few years since Google DeepMind CEO and co-founder, Demis Hassabis, and Professor Hannah Fry caught up.

In that time, the world has caught on to artificial intelligence—in a big way. Listen as they discuss the recent explosion of interest in AI, what Demis means when he describes chatbots as ‘unreasonably effective’, and the unexpected emergence of capabilities like conceptual understanding and abstraction in recent generative models.

Demis and Hannah also explore the need for rigorous AI safety measures, the importance of responsible AI development, and what he hopes for as we move closer towards artificial general intelligence. 

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Further reading: 

• Gemini
• Project Astra 
• Google I/O 2024
• Scaling Language Models: Methods, Analysis & Insights from Training Gopher
• LaMDA: our breakthrough conversation technology

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

• Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
• Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
• Series Editor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale Studios 
• Commissioner and Producer: Emma Yousif
• Production support: Mo Dawoud
• Music composition: Eleni Shaw
• Camera Director and Video Editor: Tommy Bruce
• Audio Engineer: Darren Carikas 
• Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke
• Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
• Video Production Design: James Barton
• Visual Identity and Design: Eleanor Tomlinson 
• Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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