Genesis Marks the Spot

Unseen Realm Expanded with Mike Chu - A Heiser-ish Conversation Episode 148


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Carey sits down with Mike Chu to talk through the new Unseen Realm - Expanded Edition, how Heiser clarified his stance on creeds, why frame semantics and ancient contexts matter, and why a Christotelic reading (aimed at the eschaton) can keep Scripture’s big story intact. Along the way: pastoral cautions about celebrity culture, the value of scholarship and seminary, and a practical reframing of Imago Dei as being made as God's image (not merely "in" it). Highlights include: Heiser’s "non-credal" (not anti-credal) posture, Genesis 6 in an exilic frame, and how holiness as "other" reshapes baptism, worship, and daily vocation.

  • What's actually new in Unseen Realm (Expanded Edition) and why it matters for teachers and small-group leaders
  • Heiser on creeds: non-credal vs anti-credal, and using creeds as boundaries, not as an interpretive lens
  • Christocentric vs Christotelic: aiming at the end goal of Christ (including the Spirit and the Eschaton)
  • Reading Genesis 6 with an exilic Mesopotamian frame vs a Mosaic/Egyptian frame
  • Imago Dei as vocation: "made as God's image," and why that lands pastorally
  • The completion of AWKNG School of Theology's "Seminary on a Thumb Drive" initiative
  • On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/  
    Website: genesismarksthespot.com   
    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot   
    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
    Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/  
    Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan 

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