Untangling PANDAS & PANS: Conversations about Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders

By Susan Newman Manfull, PhDMedicine Health & Fitness

Untangling PANDAS & PANS: Conversations about Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders episodes

July 28, 2024 S1 E5: Earl Harley, MD Talks About How Otolaryngologists Can Assist in the Treatment of PANDAS
Earl Harley, MD, FACS, FAAPS is a highly regarded pediatric otolaryngologist (Ears, Nose, and Throat doctor or ENT) at Georgetown University Medical Center and a beloved assistant professor at the Medical School. Dr. Harley is widely respected for his expertise in working with patients who have been diagnosed with PANDAS and PANS. Families travel from across the country (and well beyond) for consultations regarding adenotonsillectomies for their children suffering from these neuroimmune psychiatric disorders.

Dr Harley received his medical degree from Howard University School of Medicine in Washington, DC. He completed an internship at Walter Reed Hospital (previously named National Naval Medical Center). He did his residency in otolaryngology at Oakland Naval Hospital in California and, later, two pediatric ENT fellowships: Children’s National Medical Center and George Washington University in DC and the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary and Harvard University in Boston, Massachusetts.

At the same time, Dr Harley pursued a remarkable career of over 20 years in the U.S. Navy in various hospitals and on ships. He attributes his career as an ENT to the Navy and his work as a flight surgeon.

Susan Manfull, PhD caught up with Dr Harley just as he emerged from surgery — he had just performed a adenotonsillectomy with a patient diagnosed with PANDAS. Learn about his distinguished career spanning over 50 years and about how he came to know about PANDAS and PANS.
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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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June 30, 2024 S1 E4: Beth Latimer, MD Discusses How the Understanding of PANDAS has Progressed: It is Not Solely a Pediatric Disorder
M. Elizabeth “Beth” Latimer, MD is a pioneer in the field of autoimmune encephalitis and is known across the country and in Europe for her expertise in treating PANDAS and PANS. She received her medical degree from Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston, Massachusetts. She completed her residencies in Pediatrics and Neurology at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, DC with special certification in Child Neurology. She served as chief of the Child Neurology Division at Georgetown University Hospital in Washington, DC for five years, prior to practicing at Fairfax Hospital in Virginia, and then to opening her own practice in Child and Adolescent Neurology in 2000 in Bethesda, Maryland. Currently, Dr. Latimer’s private practice is in Washington, DC, in general neurology with a specialization in caring for patients with PANDAS and PANS.
Dr. Latimer is one of the few physicians in this field who has long worked with adult patients, recognizing that post-pubescent individuals could continue to suffer from PANDAS/PANS and that onset could first manifest after puberty.
Susan Manfull, PhD sits down with Dr. Latimer over cheese and crackers and sparkling water on a hot afternoon on Cape Cod. They discuss Dr. Latimer’s career in pediatric neurology, highly respected work that has spanned nearly forty years dedicated to treating patients in a field that still struggles to find a name. Whatever the field be called, Dr. Latimer’s name will certainly have a place in its history and in the hearts of many families.
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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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1 hr 7 min
May 26, 2024 S1 E3 Part 1: Dr. Shannon Delaney Talks About What Do Tick-Borne Diseases Have to Do with PANS?
Dr. Shannon Delaney, a psychiatrist with expertise in PANDAS/PANS, Lyme, and other vector-borne diseases, talks with Susan Manfull about how these complex disorders present in children and adults. Much of what she came to learn about Lyme came from her work with Dr. Brian Fallon at Columbia University.

After her residency at Harvard Longwood Psychiatry Residency Program, she moved to New York-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center and Presbyterian/Columbia University Irving Medical Center and, eventually, rose to become the Director of Child and Adolescent Evaluation at the Lyme and Tick-Borne Disease Research Center at Columbia University. Currently, Dr. Delaney has a private practice in New York City.

Dr. Delaney's work falls into the relatively new and emerging field of immunopsychiatry in which psychiatric disorders are viewed through a lens that examines the role of infections and the immune system in the development of neuropsychiatric symptoms.
Learn what initial professional experiences led Dr. Delaney to become what might be described as a "medical detective."

Episode 3 is divided into three parts: 1) Introduction and overview of tick-borne diseases; 2) diagnosis and treatment; and 3) a description of her soon-to-be-released study about the prevalence of Bartonella in patients diagnosed with Bartonella.

Recorded May 13, 2024
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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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57 min
May 26, 2024 S1 E3 Part 2: Dr. Shannon Delaney Talks About What Do Tick-Borne Diseases Have to Do with PANS?
In Part 2, the discussion with Dr. Shannon Delaney continues with a focus on the diagnosis and treatment of Lyme and other tick-borne diseases.

Recorded May 13, 2024
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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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30 min
May 26, 2024 S1 E3 Part 3: Dr. Shannon Delaney Talks About What Do Tick-Borne Diseases Have to Do with PANS?
In Part 3, the discussion with Dr. Shannon Delaney continues on her soon-to-be-released study in Frontiers in Psychiatry Journal about the prevalence of Bartonella in patients diagnosed with Bartonella.

Recorded May 13, 2024
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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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14 min
April 28, 2024 S1 E2: The Intersection of Strep, Intractable OCD, Psoriasis, and IL-17: A Conversation with Kyle Williams, MD, PhD and Andrew
In episode two, Susan Manfull interviews Dr. Kyle Williams, Director of the Pediatric Neuropsychiatry and Immunology Program at Massachusetts General Hospital, and Andrew about the potential link between strep, psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD).

Andrew shares his personal experience of how his psoriasis and OCD symptoms improved after being treated with the biologic medication Cosentyx, which targets IL-17, a cytokine involved in inflammation.

Dr. Williams discusses his research to investigate the relationship between IL-17, psoriasis, and OCD, including retrospective and prospective studies. They also discuss the need for a more multidisciplinary approach in medicine to understand better and treat the connections between physical and mental health.

If you have Psoriasis and OCD and would like to share your story with Dr. Kyle Williams, please send an email to [email protected].

Recorded April 25, 2024
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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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1 hr 7 min
April 28, 2024 S1 E2 Bonus: The Intersection of Strep, Intractable OCD, Psoriasis, and IL-17: Continued conversation with Kyle Williams, MD, PhD and Andrew
It seemed our conversation from Episode 2 was left dangling so we continued talking. If you would like to hear a wee bit more, listen to this bonus content which captures most of that conversation, mostly musings about navigating the medical system and whether the division between psychiatry and neurology is artificial (another dangling conversation to be continued in another episode).
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.

Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

To learn more about PANDAS and PANS and The Alex Manfull Fund, visit our website: TheAlexManfullFund.org

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16 min
April 06, 2024 S1 E1: Lauren Breithaupt, PhD, Talks About The Immunological Basis of Eating Disorders and PANDAS/PANS
Lauren Breithaupt, PhD, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, based in the Eating Disorders Clinical and Research Program at Massachusetts General Hospital, will discuss her cutting-edge research about the immunological basis of eating disorders and PANDAS and PANS.

After briefly describing her work on eating disorders, she talks about her new research on PANDAS and PANS. Entitled “Using a Machine Learning Approach to Identify Immune Biomarkers Associated with PANS/PANDAS,” Dr. Breithaupt’s latest work will focus on PANDAS/PANS, OCD, and restrictive eating disorders (R-ED) with the specific goal of identifying a disease specific biomarker for PANDAS/PANS. This would be a huge step forward for this neuroimmune disorder as, currently, there are no such biomarkers.

To carry out this study, Dr. Breithaupt has established what is believed to be the largest protein library of PANS/PANDAS symptoms to date. The library includes proteins expression levels of 476 adolescents diagnosed with the disorders representing overlapping PANS/PANDAS symptoms -- OCD, restrictive-eating disorders -- as well as individuals with PANS/PANDAS and age matched healthy controls. The goal is to identify disease specific biomarkers for each disorder using this very large and comprehensive data set of patients with symptoms indicative of each disorder.

Identifying protein biomarkers is important for diagnosis, the identification of novel targets for drug development, and to further understand the biological underpinnings of these disorders. Very importantly, the results of this proposed study will serve as pilot data for larger NIMH grants.

Dr. Breithaupt’s current research is funded by The Alex Manfull Fund with generous contributions from The Louisa Adelynn Johnson Fund for Complex Disease and Neuroimmune Foundation.

Recorded March 28, 2024

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Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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51 min
April 06, 2024 S1 E1 Bonus: PANDAS/PANS Advocacy Day on Capitol Hill - Join us on April 12, 2024
In this bonus episode, I will be talking about our second annual PANS/PANDAS Advocacy Day on Capitol Hill, a joint event planned by the National Alliance of PANS/PANDAS Action (NAPPA) and The Alex Manfull Fund (TAMF) to be held on Friday, April 12th in Washington, DC. My guests -- Amanda Peel Crowley, co-founder of NAPPA, and Paul J. Murphy, Treasurer of The Alex Manfull Fund -- have all the details!
LINK to register: https://thealexmanfullfund.org/advocacy-day-on-capitol-hill-2024/

On Saturday, April 13th, our second annual 5K Run/Walk will take place.
LINK to register: https://thealexmanfullfund.org/the-alex-manfull-fund-2024-5k-run-walk/

BREAKING NEWS: April 8th marks more than (just) solar eclipse!
The Alex Manfull Fund Silent Auction will go live on Monday, April 8th at 12:00 p.m. and will end Sunday, April 14th at 9:00 p.m. with the culmination of the weekend events.
The ECLIPSE serves as a metaphor for the unique and marvelous nature of "36 Hours in DC," a time when patients, advocates, doctors, researchers, scientists, health providers, and legislators come together to advance change on PANDAS/PANS. Where the lives lost will move us all to a place where no life ever again be cut short -- or interrupted -- by infection-associated neuroimmune disorders.

Together, we can ECLIPSE PANDAS/PANS!

Here is the LINK to view the auction items: https://alexmanfullfund.betterworld.org/auctions/going-distance-capitol-hill-poto

Recorded March 29, 2024.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.

Credits: Music by Kingsley Durant from his "Convertible" album

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43 min

About Untangling PANDAS & PANS: Conversations about Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders

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Hello and welcome to Untangling PANDAS & PANS, a podcast about two relatively unknown medical disorders characterized by the sudden and dramatic onset of obsessions and compulsions, vocal or…

motor tics, or restricted eating behavior -- and a whole host of other symptoms -- following strep or other bacterial or viral infection. Sometimes overnight. I have the privilege of interviewing some of the top researchers and clinicians in the rapidly growing field of Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders. That’s a mouthful of words that encompasses the strangely named disorders, PANDAS and PANS.

My name is Dr. Susan Manfull. I am a social psychologist, the Executive Director of The Alex Manfull Fund, and the mother of Alex Manfull, who died at 26 years old due to PANDAS, a neuropsychiatric disorder my husband and I knew next to nothing about, certainly not that our daughter could die from it.

PANDAS is an acronym for “Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorder Associated with Streptococcus.” This disorder, first defined in 1998 at the National Institute of Mental Health, describes the acute and dramatic onset of obsessions and compulsions and/or motor or vocal tics as well as a whole host of neuropsychiatric symptoms in temporal association to a Group A streptococcal infection. PANS, which stands for Pediatric Acute-onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome, refers to a similar symptom presentation -- with obsessions and compulsions or restricted eating being the cardinal symptoms -- due to a broader category of triggers (typically bacterial or viral infections). Both are thought to stem from a dysregulated immune system, probably leading to an over-production of autoantibodies and concomitant excess brain inflammation, particularly in the basal ganglia.

Symptoms vary from person to person and range in severity from mild to severe, and generally have a relapsing and remitting course. With early recognition and correct treatment, these disorders can be successfully treated. Today, it is no longer viewed as a diagnosis limited to the pediatric population.

Please stay tuned after each episode to listen to a one-minute public service announcement about PANDAS & PANS and The Alex Manfull Fund. To learn more, please visit our website: TheAlexManfullFund.org.

This content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.