in this episode of "revival: a good news brand podcast," hosts david butler and stephan taeger discuss elder matthew s. holland’s general conference talk, "forsake not your own mercy." they explore themes of suffering, mercy, and god’s loyal love (chesed), using the story of jonah as a symbol of forgiveness and redemption. the hosts reflect on finding divine messages in flawed individuals, balancing literal and symbolic scripture interpretation, and how gospel principles can be lived concretely. their conversation encourages embracing life’s challenges, recognizing god’s inexhaustible love, and seeking hope and revival through faith.

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