Us & Them

Us & Them

By Trey Kay and WVPBSociety & Culture
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Us & Them episodes

  • Still Waiting For Justice

    Two and a half years ago, an African-American teen named James Means was shot and killed in Charleston, WV. An older white man, William Pullman faces first-degree murder charges. The trial was scheduled

    for this week, but instead, the Means family learned there's a new twist in the case. They talk with Trey and Lacie Pierson of the Charleston Gazette for an update.

    17 min
  • Waiting for Justice

    In Charleston, WV back in November 2016, William Pulliam, a 62-year-old white man, shot and killed James Means, a 15-year-old African-American boy. The case made national headlines. Reports say during his confession, Pulliam told police, “The way I look at it, that’s another piece of trash off of the street.”

    Trey has met with lawyers and others grieving such a loss.  Multiple delays have pushed back Pulliam’s trial. One delay was to assess Pulliam’s mental competency, a move the Means’ family just doesn’t understand. In December 2018, Pulliam was finally declared mentally competent, and his trial is scheduled to start in early May 2019.

    With so many delays, the Means family, has little confidence in the legal system.  As the trial date approaches, they’re waiting for justice.

    51 min
  • Opioid Recovery in Appalachia's Ground Zero

    America has a drug addiction crisis. Recovery could take decades. Opioid addiction has hit

    Appalachia harder than any region in the nation. This episode, Trey talks to Caitlin Esch, a reporter for The
    Uncertain Hour podcast produced by APM’s Marketplace. Caitlin has spent years
    tracking the challenges of the drug epidemic in Wise County, VA, where opioid
    addiction, and now methamphetamine and cocaine abuse takes lives and devastates
    families.

    34 min
  • States Look to Appalachia for Vaccination Laws

    Measles cases have spiked in the first quarter of 2019 with

    outbreaks in ten states. Vaccinations prevent many communicable diseases, but
    measles is back. Epidemiologists believe it's because some parents do not
    immunize their children. As a result, the so called “herd protection” from
    disease that public health officials rely on, is weaker. The option to forgo
    vaccinations varies from state to state and is based on laws that are different
    across the country. Some states allow vaccination exemptions based on a person’s
    religious or philosophical beliefs. However some lawmakers are rethinking their
    vaccination policies because of the recent up tick in measles cases - and
    they’re looking to an unlikely part of the country as a model: Appalachia.

    31 min
  • Reconnecting With Femme Voice

    In the winter of 2016, we told the story of Anne Kelly Skinner, a Charleston, WV lawyer, who was transitioning from male to female. As Anne's body became less dude-like and more womanly, she was pleased. However, she worried her voice wouldn’t match her new body. There are many physical challenges for transgender people, one that doesn't get a lot of attention is how a trans woman learns to sound like a woman. If a woman sounds like a guy, can she truly feel like a woman? We revisit Anne, three years later, to find out how she’s doing and if she has found what she calls, her femme voice.

    53 min
  • Scarlet Letters and Second Chances

    As a West Virginia teenager, Amber Miller dropped out of school, took drugs and robbed homes. She wound up on the wrong side of the law and served time for a felony. In a youth correction center, she turned her life around, but after her release, had trouble finding a job to support her two sons. Like 8% of Americans with felony conviction, Amber had to “check the box” on job applications admitting to her criminal past. The felony on her record was like a ‘scarlet letter’ and most employers were reluctant to hire her. Amber was committed to change, but was society willing to give her a second chance? Trey speaks with Amber and West Virginia politicians about the state’s plans for helping felons get back into the workforce.

    29 min
  • Black Talk

    How old were you when you first learned that police may think of you as a threat?

    You’ve never been told that?

    Chances are you’re not African American. In this episode, Trey Kay examines “The Black Talk,” which is the sober conversation that many black families have with their teenage kids – particularly teenage boys – about how they should conduct themselves when stopped by the police.

    Spoiler alert: Black parents, like any parent, want their kids to come home alive.

    We’ll also learn from a chapter of Charleston, West Virginia’s Civil Rights legacy from a minister mentored by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    51 min
  • Cave Men, The Patriarchy & Fairytales

    Throughout history, men have been seen as the dominant gender. Why is this? Some assume the model goes all the way back to the primitive cave man. Others believe the gender pecking order was commanded by God. In this episode, Trey speaks with John Biewen and Celeste Headlee about their “Men” series for the "Scene On Radio" podcast. In this episode we dive deep into how, when and why men invented the patriarchy, and how it hurts everyone.

    30 min
  • My Friend From Camp

    Moazzam Begg, a British citizen of Pakistani heritage, and Albert Melise, a former housing police officer in the Boston area, were unlikely to have their life stories intersect and become friends; but then September 11 happened.

    After the Bush Administration launched the War on Terror, Begg was detained and held at the U.S. Detention Camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Melise was a Gitmo guard. You can’t get much more Us & Them than that.

    52 min
  • War on Christmas…Really? 2018

    It’s that time of year again, when Trey’s Twitter and Facebook feeds flare up with posts about a “War on Christmas.” Every year there’s hubbub over how saying “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas” is TOO politically correct, or that a nativity scene doesn't belong on government property. Christmas traditionalists feel there’s an attack on this sacred holiday, while secularists seem bothered that this religious holiday has a privileged place in a country known for its separation of church and state. For this (mostly fun) episode, Trey and historian Adam Laats ponder the nature of this so-called “war.”

    53 min

About Us & Them

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We tell stories from the fault lines that separate Americans. Peabody Award-winning public radio producer Trey Kay listens to people on both sides of the divide.

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