There’s a bit of maple in the air because this week John Hodgman and Janet Varney visit Vermont! 

Green mountain boys and sea monsters await.

Plus: A motto so good that it makes us rethink our opinions about the other mottos we’ve graded so far. (Sorry New York– looks like “Excelsior!” might be inferior).

And you know what this episode pairs great with? A big ol’ plate of pancakes with some freshly tapped Vermont maple syrup.

Episode art provided by: 

Jayne Kennedy

Jackie Gray

Kate Thomas

Produced by Julian Burrell.

Senior Producer at MaxFun is Laura Swisher.

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