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Geraint Jones sits down with former Australian Paratrooper and Navy Diver Paul De Gelder, a shark attack survivor who is now a TV presenter and motivational speaker. Among the topics of discussion; going from sh*tbag to soldier; what it's like to find yourself attached to a shark's mouth; and giving back to the community and the oceans.

You can connect with Geraint at @grjbooks across social media, and find his Afghanistan memoir Brothers in Arms in all good book stores.

Paul is online @paulDeGelder and www.pauldegelder.com

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