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An alarming number of veterans are filling up British prisons. In the episode we take a no BS look at the reasons why, with mental health professional Cormac Doyle, and former tanky Richard Jones, who has recently finished a lengthy prison sentence for conspiracy to supply cocaine. Both Rich and Cormac now do great work in trying to keep vets out of prison, as well as helping those who or the inside to reform.

Among the topics of discussion on this episode; what is EMDR treatment for PTSD?; why veterans are at risk of falling into criminal lifestyles; how should the MOD deal with transition from the military?

You can connect with Geraint at @grjbooks across social media, and find his Afghanistan memoir Brothers in Arms in all good book stores.

Cormac is on twitter @doyle_cormac and RJ can be found at www.projecttls.co.uk

If you are a veteran struggling with mental health, or you just want a bit of help adjusting to civvie life, then say hello to the Royal British Legion at @royalbritishlegion or www.rbl.org

Thank you to The Development Society, Kamouflage Ltd, Altberg Boots and Zulu Alpha Watch Straps for making this episode possible. You can find them at www.devsoc.shop, www.kamouflage.co.uk, www.altberg.co.uk, @zulualphastraps

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