In the past — at least in the past as we like to remember it — wars began with declarations and ended with surrenders or negotiated “peace agreements.”

In the real world — most emphatically in the real world of the 21st century — there are wars, and there are wars between wars.

Jacob Nagel, a senior fellow at FDD, served as head of Israel’s National Security Council. Before that, he served in the Israel Defense Forces, rising to the rank of brigadier general.

Bradley Bowman is senior director of FDD’s Center on Military and Political Power (CMPP). He has served as a national security advisor to members of the Senate Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees. He was also a U.S. Army officer, “Blackhawk” pilot, and assistant professor at West Point, from which he also graduated.

They join host Clifford D. May to discuss issues of war and peace — and the grey zone in between.

 

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More from Cliff: https://www.fdd.org/team/clifford-d-may/ 

More from Jacob: https://www.fdd.org/team/jacob-nagel/ 

More from Brad: https://www.fdd.org/team/bradley-bowman/ 

More from FDD's Center on Military and Political Power (CMPP): https://www.fdd.org/projects/center-on-military-and-political-power/