I tend to protect the word emo online to a fault. A few months back a site called Polygraph run by Matthew Daniels released a data visualization of what punk bands were considered punk, post, screamo, etc. Based on Spotify playlists. The emo category consisted of mostly mid 00s era stuff with some alt rock, etc. Just way off. It went like this. I tweeted at him angrily. He wrote back nicely. We talked on the phone, then he came to my apt to talk me off the ledge. While you’re listening check out Polygraph (poly-graph.co). This was an insanely interesting conversation about data. I promise you’re learn something about music and habits we all have now with access to everything at any moment. 

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This episode we welcome Bernie McGinn. Who is Bernie McGinn you might ask? Well Bernie started Caulfield Records back in 1988 to release a record by the band Sideshow. After that Caulfield Records went on to release music by Mercy Rule, Christie Front Drive, Mineral, Giants Chair, Broken Hearts are Blue, Opium Taylor, Germbox and many more. A true originator in the scene.  

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For episode 61, we welcome Barry Lott from the band Camber. You may know that band name from the First Deep Elm Emo Diaries compilation. They were track 2, right after Jimmy Eat World. Camber have a very special place in my heart. Their debut album was the first record I was ever sent at the college radio station and helped kickstart my journey into emo itself. Barry and I talk about Camber’s history, the NYC scene in the 90s and what everyone is up to now. Hope you enjoy. 

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Episode 60 we welcome Brian Lowit. Brian started Lovitt Records and works at Dischord Records. Lovitt Records since 1995 has put out some amazing bands and a big part of my college years going to school in the south. Bands like Engine Down, Four Hundred Years, Milemarker and Sleepytime Trio. Brian also shed light on working at Dischord and we spent a good chunk on a festival called MacRock that we both attended. Search out this label, search out these bands and keep digging.

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Episode 59 we welcome Christian Holden from The Hotelier. Their last album “Home, Like Noplace Is There” was a huge record for me and many who listen to this podcast. Late last year Christian was in NYC on tour and had some time to hang out in the van to chat. You may hear some doors opening/closing, cell phone beeps, sirens. out of our control. It’s NYC… In this episode, we discuss many things including The Hotelier’s start in Massachusetts, DIY culture and the upcoming album “Goodness” out on Tiny Engines in May. 

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You can thank Cloud Nothings and Desaparecidos for The Starting Line’s most recent 7” entitled “Anyways.” Kenny spoke highly of those two bands and how it got him excited to write in the style of The Starting Line again. It’s only fitting that Kenny is the next podcast after Jon Bunch spoke so highly of him in episode 57. Kenny straddles that line of being old enough to know the past but be involved in the mid 00 emo wave and has some amazing perspective on it. I learned a lot and have a great respect for his music. 

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I will never forget that the first thing Jon did when he picked up the phone for the podcast. He asked about my life and took the time to find out more about Washed Up Emo before the interview even started. I was blown away at how humble he was but also so proud of his life's work. It’s an honor to be able to present a small slice of Jon that many of his friends and family know so well. I count myself included. This podcast is supposed to be evergreen. You can listen in 5 years or in 10 years and know a good chunk of that band or era and some context to the scene and a way to look back but also look ahead. Jon was that last point to a T. He was so happy talking about the history but also his new music and what was next. Sadly, this was the last interview Jon did. I can only hope those close or those who have no idea who Jon Bunch was take and learn something from one of the most important voices in not only the independent scene but music in general. I am eternally grateful Jon took the time to talk with me about his life that will thankfully live on in aural form so someone can stumble upon Jon's music forever.

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Episode 56 is with co-creators Phil Matarese and Mike Luciano of the new HBO animated series Animals. It premieres February 5th, today or depending when you listen to this, it’s on demand. Phil and Mike happen to be huge fans of punk/hardcore/emo and took time out of their day in NYC to hang with me at the HBO offices and chat about the show and music. 

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Welcome to Episode 55 of the Washed Up Emo Podcast. Today we welcome John Nolan from Taking Back Sunday and Straylight Run. We spoke about the bands formation, his upbringing on Long Island and what’s next for himself and Taking Back Sunday. 

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Episode 54 we welcome Nic Newsham, best know from Gatsby’s American Dream! He has a new project The Money Pit with Bobby Darling, also from Gatsby’s American Dream. We spoke recently with Nic about Gatsby’s musical life, Warped Tour, which label told them to put on eyeliner and my favorite topic, crab core. If there are any edits in this episode, it’s me laughing. We had a blast. Hope you enjoy! 

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