In a wide-ranging and provocative conversation that traversed the intersections of technology, politics, and social change, veteran tech journalist Sarah Lacy and host Michael Krasny engaged in a candid dialogue that explored the most pressing cultural and political issues of the moment.

The conversation began with Lacy opining on venture capitalists investing in Trump. They went on to talk about the increase in hypermasculinity, and Lacy brought up the diminution of trans rights.

Krasny asked Lacy about her falling out with Kara Swisher and why they aren't speaking. They then discussed press exclusions from the White House and the decision by Jeff Bezos to limit opinions on the editorial page of The Washington Post.

Krasny inquired about Lacy's political views, including her feminist perspective, and asked for her major advice for working mothers. Lacy then spoke more about trans rights and shared her views on Gen Z, as well as the influence of her parents on her life.

The conversation shifted to discussions of profit and money-making via chaos. They talked about Lacy's most recent book, her Palm Springs bookstore, and the future of tech journalism. It was an invigorating and illuminating hour!