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In this week's episode, Damien digs into how Ben Debow, CEO of Fortified Data, scaled a niche, database-focused MSP to 50+ staff with near-zero turnover (accomplished this after one crucial hire), mid-market ($1 B+) clients and a culture that prizes unique abilities—all while having the time to start up a new SaaS business.

Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:23 - How he started Fortified Data
9:51 - Who's his ideal client?
13:02 - Embracing remote culture
14:41 - Culture - solving the turnover problem
26:44 - Culture - neurodivergent hires
44:40 - Freeing up his time by hiring a President
53:23 - Having an abundance mindset
1:02:04 - His SaaS company
1:10:41- MSP Titan Questions

Connect with Damien and Ben:
Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevens
Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bendebow/

📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset