Power is everywhere in schools – in classrooms, staffrooms, policies, and conversations. Yet it is rarely named, examined, or understood. In this episode, James Mannion and David Cameron are joined by Dee Nic Sitric to explore how power operates – often invisibly – and what becomes possible when schools begin to surface it.

Drawing on systemic thinking, neurodivergent perspectives, and real-world examples, this conversation examines how power shapes behaviour, relationships, decision-making, and ultimately outcomes for children and young people.

Key ideas explored

-Why power dynamics are largely invisible but highly influential in schools

-The distinction between control and genuine systemic thinking

-How slice teams redistribute power and improve decision-making

-The role of psychological safety in enabling challenge and curiosity

-Why ‘voice’ without influence is not real participation

How power shows up in:

behaviour systems

classroom talk and oracy

staff relationships

policy and consultation processes

The link between mattering (feeling valued + adding value) and power

Why reflection – not compliance – is the engine of improvement

Standout moments

‘Power isn’t static – it moves, shifts, and often sits where we least expect it.’

‘Who is allowed to ask questions? That’s where the power lies.’

‘We cannot be curious and judgemental at the same time.’

A vivid example of how a single interaction in an assembly can redistribute (or remove) power in seconds

Practical implications

Create structures where multiple perspectives genuinely shape decisions

Build psychological safety so staff and students can question and contribute

Move from ‘consultation’ to co-production

Use reflection routines to examine:

‘Why did we act that way?’

‘Whose voice was missing?’

Reframe behaviour and classroom talk as questions of power, not just technique

About Dee Nic Sitric

Dee is the founding director of Autism Champions, a neurodivergent-led organisation supporting schools and systems to better understand and respond to neurodivergent experiences. Her work focuses on systemic thinking, relational practice, and the lived realities of children, families, and staff navigating education systems.

Call to action

Reflect on your own setting:

Who has the most power?

Who feels able to speak?

Whose perspectives are shaping decisions?

Links

Autism Champions - https://www.autismchampions.co.uk

Follow Dee on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dee-nic-sitric/

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