Turkish Pres. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan visited Rome Tuesday for a Turkey-Italy intergovernmental summit, highlighting fast-developing trade and defense ties between the two NATO allies.

In recent months, Turkish defense firm Baykar acquired Italy’s Piaggio Aerospace and announced a joint venture to produce drones with Italy’s defense giant, Leonardo.

To make sense of bilateral relations and what they mean for European security, we hosted a livestream with the authors of the recent analysis: “Europe’s defense awakening and its strategic partners: Any place for Turkey?”

The above is our recording with Riccardo Gasco, foreign policy program coordinator at the IstanPol Institute and doctoral researcher at the University of Bologna, and Samuele Abrami, a Mercator-IPC Fellow and researcher at the Barcelona Centre for International Affairs.

They also host the Cose Turche News podcast with Eleonora Masi.

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