Brad and Dan discuss Tucker Carlson's trip to Hungary and interview with Orban as part of a decades-long pattern of White nationalists and White Christian nationalists looking to autocratic strongmen as the models of the ideal society. They trace Carlson's visit to Hungary to Rod Dreher and other White Christians who see Orban and his ilk as the prototypical Christian patriarchal leaders.

They then discuss the rise of Latino Evangelicals and how their resonances with White Evangelicals. Again, the themes of family, patriarchy, and authority come into play.

They finish with a look at the ideas of freedom and liberty at play in Ron DeSantis' opposition to masks and the rhetoric against mandating vaccines. Dan explains how Uncle Ron's discourse links up with political theory from the past and ultimately advances a misguided understanding of liberty.

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